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Islam: The enemy of democracy and freedom! (why democracy is the wrong weapon against islam)
Faithfreedom.org ^ | 3/4/2006 | Mark Alexander

Posted on 03/04/2006 4:56:06 AM PST by Dark Skies

Until 9/11, the western world was largely ignorant of the religion of Islam, of its goals, of its aspirations. Indeed, even since 9/11, most people, and that includes our politicians, would not score very highly in a test of their knowledge on the subject. It should be obvious to all thinking people that our politicians are actually unaware, dare I say blind, to the dangers that Islam will increasingly cause us. It is truly a case of the blind leading the blind! That means to say, uninformed and unthinking politicians leading an ill-informed electorate. But folks, this is what we have right now. The same can hardly be said of Muslims in the Islamic world, though; for their knowledge of Christianity far surpasses - even though much of their knowledge is quite distorted - any knowledge of Islam by the man in the street in the West.

As the old saying goes, knowledge is power. But what we often don't hear uttered is its converse: Ignorance is weakness!

The West is far weaker than it need be because of this ignorance of Islam, since Islam is our greatest enemy – the greatest enemy since Nazism and communism. I'll give you some good reasons why this is so. And none of them - absolutely none of them - are based on hatred!

Islam is the enemy of the West for a plethora of good, solid reasons, and if we wish to survive as a civilization, we are going to have to bite the bullet and deal, head on, with the issues these reasons raise. Let us begin...

First and foremost, we are dealing with a religion which does not recognize any separation of politics and religion, any separation of the political from the spiritual. For Muslims, life is one coherent whole: the political and spiritual both meld into one. This has always been so, and always will be. No re-classification of the religion into two separate parts is possible because of Islam's very nature.

In Islam, all power rests with Allah, the god of Muslims. The Qur'an, their holy book, is always taken literally. Those words are considered to be the actual words of Allah. Therefore, none of these words can be changed, for to change any of them would be tantamount to tampering with Allah's words. This would be a grave sin in their eyes.

For the same reason that the words contained in the Qur'an cannot be changed, they cannot, therefore, be re-interpreted either. So do not hold your breath for any kind of reformation in this religion, because it ain't gonna happen!

In Islam, all power rests with Allah, and it filters down via his vice-gerents on earth to the people. Hence the great desire among Muslims to restore the caliphate. Contrast this with the Western model of government!

In the West, the ideal political system is democracy. In democracy, all power rests with the people, and they exercise that power at the polls. In a democracy, all power filters in the opposite direction from Islam. In democracy it filters up; in Islam, down! Herein lies the greatest barrier to the miscibility of the two worlds: the western world and the Islamic world!

Without digressing too much here, I should like to add that this is the main reason why George W Bush and Blair's venture into Iraq to bring democracy there was a grave error of judgment. How can one bring democracy to a region of the world where the people who inhabit that region believe that all power rests with Allah, and where they believe that Allah has prescribed their way of life for them for then, for now, and for all time?

I would suggest that where such a dichotomy exists, the most sensible and prudent thing to do would be for us to lead our lives as we see fit, and for those people to be allowed to live their lives as they see fit. That way, there would be hope of some peace in this world.

But this is not what we have done. We have done the very opposite of this: We have entered the Middle East in the hope - the vain hope in my opinion - of bringing our way of doing things, our way of life, to them; furthermore, we have allowed millions and millions of Muslims into the West - and at the very time when Christianity, the religion which underpins the West, is greatly weakened anyway - which will only give us headaches for the years ahead. Why? Because Muslims who immigrate bring their hopes and dreams and aspirations with them of establishing Islam everywhere on earth. To Islamize the world is the main aspiration of the Muslim; and we have seen these past weeks, the manifestation of aggression in its cause in France . For what happened in France was in no small part because of the Muslim's desire to establish Allah's caliphate here on earth. These were the first rumblings, the first roar of the lion! Expect more of this in the future, as Islam grows stronger and stronger.

Muslims, by and large, do not respect non-Muslims. How can they? Their religion does not allow them to do so. Their religion preaches that Muslims are superior to non-Muslims; indeed, they use the derogatory term infidel for us. This word to some Westerners might simply mean that they call us infidels because we are people who do not subscribe to their faith. This, after all, would be quite logical, since to us it simply means not fidele, or not true to the faith. But this does not completely describe what Muslims mean by this term. To Muslims, to be called an infidel is an insult indeed! It has connotations of inferiority, backwardness, and even uncleanness!

You see, Muslims believe that Islam is the perfection of religion for man for all time. They call it ad deen al kamal, the perfect religion. People, in their eyes, who have not yet submitted to the will of Allah, are in a state of pre-Islamic chaos, a state known to them as Jahiliyyah! To Muslims, all Muslims, the whole world is classified in two parts: that part of the world which has submitted, and is therefore in the Islamic state, known as Dar al Islam, and that part of the world which has yet to submit, and is therefore in a pre-Islamic, chaotic, jahiliyyic state, known as Dar al Harb, or the House of War!

The House of War is the part of the world which has yet to be taken over, and must at some point be taken over in the future. We, I am sorry to inform you, are in the House of War. So we can expect anything at anytime.

Some people would ask why we were able to go for quite a long time without problems with Muslims. The answer to that is a simple one indeed. First of all, there were relatively few Muslims living in the West, so the ones that did live here were not powerful. Secondly, Muslims living in the Islamic world were, for the most part and for many years, poor by anyone's standards. This all changed with the Oil Embargo of the 70s - a time when the price of oil on the world markets soared. As a result of this, the Islamic world became rich and empowered. Money is power; and it talks loudly! In recent years we have seen evidence aplenty of Islam being on the move. I tell you now: If we do not find a way of clipping its wings here in the West, we shall lose our democracy, and we shall be in deep, deep trouble.

So the trouble we will have with Muslims will not come only from without, but in the future we can expect trouble from the Muslims within. The millions of Muslims living here in the West will not integrate, because it is not in their worldview to do so. It is also forbidden them by their very own Prophet Himself, the Prophet Muhammad. He forbade Muslims even to befriend infidels. He also exhorted them to kill us. And he certainly told them that they should live separate lives, and dress and behave differently, so that they could easily tell themselves apart.

No Western politician is going to be able to change these facts. For facts they are indeed. Moreover, as Islam will grow here, their numbers will become greater and greater, and they will be able to use our democratic system to outvote us and introduce their form of government based as it is on their beloved Shariah, or quranic laws! How do you propose we shall be able to stop them? We shall be outnumbered, and as the outcome of democratic elections depends on the number of votes cast, we shall be able to do nothing about it! This time will come quicker than we might think, because so few babies are being born to infidel families.

The only thing left for people to do, will be to fight. Inevitably, at some point, civil war will ensue. If the political process fails people, then this will be all that will be left for them: civil war, guerre civile, Bürgerkrieg, call it what you will.

But one thing I can assure you, no politicians' sweet talk, posturing, or manœvring, will get us out of this one without conflict at some point in the future.

You see, one of the biggest problems for the West is its devotion to the concept of freedom of religion. This is a lofty concept and ideal indeed; but this devotion blinds people to one important reality: Islam is not just a religion, but a political system also. Indeed, it is more of a political system than anything else, and it is, in addition, a political system diametrically opposed to our own. It abhors freedom of choice, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of anything that we so cherish! The only thing one is free to do in Islam is become a Muslim, and submit to the will of Allah!

These two systems are totally immiscible, and unfortunately, we have imported this immiscibility right into the heart of the West! To our own great disadvantage, and to the disadvantage of our long-term peace and security. What, I ask you, will the Americans do when the ever growing Muslim population in America starts wanting to tinker with the Americans' beloved Constitution? When Muslims will see their way clear to supplant the Constitution with Shariah law?

Questions like these are the ones we should be grappling with NOW. To wait until the time comes would be foolish indeed.

Wake up to the harsh realities of life in the twenty-first century! We've got some collective thinking to do if we wish to save ourselves from darkness! Perhaps we shall, indeed, be forced to think about having to re-classify Islam as a political system first and foremost, a political system immiscible with our own, and one whose advance needs to be forestalled. This may be one of our only sensible alternatives. Since to give complete, unhampered freedom to Islam to grow here in the West is tantamount to digging our own graves!

Mark Alexander is the author of The Dawning of a New Dark Age: A Collection of Essays on Islam


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: democracy; islam; jihad; muslim; uglythread; wot
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1 posted on 03/04/2006 4:56:10 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies
OK, lets get out of Iraq,Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE ASAP and not let any Muslims into our country and arrest every Muslim currently in our country. /sarcasm
2 posted on 03/04/2006 5:06:31 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Dark Skies
I would suggest that where such a dichotomy exists, the most sensible and prudent thing to do would be for us to lead our lives as we see fit, and for those people to be allowed to live their lives as they see fit. That way, there would be hope of some peace in this world.

I disagree vehemently with that state, however. If islam is the evil cult this author says it is, then it is the duty of free men and women to liberate its victims, IMHO.

3 posted on 03/04/2006 5:09:00 AM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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To: Echo Talon

Sounds like a plan to me.


4 posted on 03/04/2006 5:12:26 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
Sounds like a plan to me.

I wonder what Israel would think about that?

5 posted on 03/04/2006 5:13:51 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Dark Skies

Sadly, I think he's right. I supported Bush's attempt to bring democracy to Iraq, because it seemed like offering them one last chance to get on board. Iraq was, in fact, probably chosen because Saddam's government was more or less secular, or at least not directly ruled by Muslim clergy, and the Iraqis might have had more preparation than other Muslims for the concept of a separate political state.

But what we are seeing now is the fact that Islam simply won't accept a peaceful separate political state; in fact, Islamic countries that wish to participate in the modern world in any way have to exist as police states in order to hold back the forces of theocratic Islam from swamping them. Sadly, Iraq is probably going to have to go back to being a police state (although without a megalomaniac dictator) if it wants to have any kind of secular state. Otherwise, it's going to be run by "Mullah Sadr" and the gang.

The only thing Islam understands is superior force. We in the modern West are averse to force and averse to making any positive statements of right or wrong; this is a side-effect of our political system, since democracy depends on a certain level of accomodation and avoidance of force. But Islam has no such scruples, and unless we wake up to its real nature and confront it, now, while it's still slightly weak and not thoroughly united, I fear that our children will be suffering through truly terrible, terrible times.


6 posted on 03/04/2006 5:17:33 AM PST by livius
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To: Dark Skies

That's the big problem with this article, btw. He does the usual thing of blaming Muslim madness on the fact that the West is "involved" there. Long before the West was involved from a point of power, as occurrred in some Muslim countries with the start of British rule, Islam was seeking to overrun it. What the author doesn't seem to understand is that "live and let live" doesn't work with Islam, mainly because it won't play and doesn't want to "let live."


7 posted on 03/04/2006 5:20:14 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
What the author doesn't seem to understand is that "live and let live" doesn't work with Islam, mainly because it won't play and doesn't want to "let live."

Yep, he makes some goods and then misses the bottom line.

8 posted on 03/04/2006 5:22:59 AM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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To: Dark Skies
" then it is the duty of free men and women to liberate its victims"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>................
by whose blood and treasure are you willing to take on this task?
The total ignorance of the west about the culture of tribal societies is astounding.
Islam will change, but making it change to fit YOUR CONCEPTS of a good outcome smak of the the ignorance our leaders exhibited in Viet Nam. Johnson's continued amazement that N vietnam would take his limited bombing and his restrictions on our troops in S vietnam..as enough to give up. Nixon found that use of B52's at heart of Hanoi did do it, years too late.
9 posted on 03/04/2006 5:24:27 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: Echo Talon

"Muslims, by and large, do not respect non-Muslims."

In business dealings, the author is 100% accurate. Do business with muslims at your own risk.


10 posted on 03/04/2006 5:25:52 AM PST by chris1
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To: Dark Skies
Democracy is bringing "nice-nice" ideas to throat slitters and suicide bombers, and remember to drink the kool aid lableled "islam is a religion of peace".
11 posted on 03/04/2006 5:26:14 AM PST by gitmogrunt (oppose one farce at the border)
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To: livius

It went on way before the Brits were there.


12 posted on 03/04/2006 5:27:25 AM PST by chris1
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To: chris1

P&O has terminals in 18 countries and we are only ones crying.


13 posted on 03/04/2006 5:30:33 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: ConsentofGoverned
by whose blood and treasure are you willing to take on this task?

The point is this...if islamism isn't destroyed, it will return for your children and their children.

14 posted on 03/04/2006 5:34:50 AM PST by Dark Skies ("Free speech is THE weapon of choice against islam.")
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To: Echo Talon

I'm not talking on a huge scale like that. I don't know what you do for a living, but ask anyone who has ever provided a service to amuslim what it was like to get paid and whether they got paid what bargained for, or for that matter at all.

I have had nothing but very negative experiences with muslims as their culture teaches them it is a good thing to get over on non-muslims in business matters.

You may think I am crazy, but go ask a plumber or electrician who did work for a muslim about what happened.

They do not have even close to the same values as us and think nothing of not paying for services provided on their behalf. It is not isolated, it is cultural.


15 posted on 03/04/2006 5:34:55 AM PST by chris1
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To: Dark Skies

Are a crescent and penumbra one in the same?


16 posted on 03/04/2006 5:38:38 AM PST by PGalt
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To: livius
Sadly, Iraq is probably going to have to go back to being a police state (although without a megalomaniac dictator) if it wants to have any kind of secular state. Otherwise, it's going to be run by "Mullah Sadr" and the gang.

Not going to happen.

IMHO, the mistake people make when we talk about Iraq is the notion Iraq is one country and can once again be autocratically ruled by one dominate megalomaniac.  Under no circumstance can I imagine the Kurds allowing themselves to lose what they have wanted for so long.

Again IMHO, the Kurds are the most flagrantly and repeatedly betrayed people on the earth.  They will not submit to a Mullah Sadr nor to a reformed Baathist pretender.

Complicated place, that Iraq.

The only thing Islam understands is superior force.

Not until every mosque beneath the sun,
Is ruined will our holy work be done,
And never will true Muslim appear,
Till faith and infidelity are one.

Abu Said ibn Abil Khair, Persian Sufi mystic


17 posted on 03/04/2006 5:39:32 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Dark Skies

Western liberalism is more destructive than Islam.


18 posted on 03/04/2006 5:39:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: chris1
I don't know what you do for a living, but ask anyone who has ever provided a service to amuslim what it was like to get paid and whether they got paid what bargained for, or for that matter at all.

Ask Israeli Shiping company Zim Line if DPW does good job or not, they use them all the time.

19 posted on 03/04/2006 5:40:01 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Dark Skies
You sir/madam harbor very dangerous ideas..although shared by most of our leaders (in both parties and the academics of the Ivy League)
20 posted on 03/04/2006 5:40:33 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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