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Border issues near boiling point - Senate panel hears warnings of security risks
Daily Bulletin ^ | 3/2/06 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 03/02/2006 9:21:18 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - A south Texas rancher, Texas sheriffs, an Arizona district attorney and other law enforcement representatives urged Senate committee members Wednesday to heed their warning: The porous southern border of the United States is a national security risk.

Witnesses told Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, chairman of the Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship subcommittee, at a hearing on border violence that without cooperation from Mexico, combined with federal support from the United States, the situation at the border will continue to deteriorate.

Cornyn focused the hearing on recent reports of Mexican military incursions into the United States, increasing border violence against law enforcement officials and the need for better border technology.

"Combating border violence will take a concerted and thoughtful effort by all parties involved," Cornyn said during the hearing. "I believe it is important that the federal government use all of its resources to gain control of the border."

The hearing comes on the heels of the well-publicized encounter in Hudspeth County in west Texas between law-enforcement officers and organized drug dealers dressed in Mexican military uniforms.

In January, the Daily Bulletin first published confidential Department of Homeland Security documents showing that Mexican soldiers had crossed the border into the United States more than 200 times.

"Regardless of what kind of story the Mexican government is making up, I can tell you this -- my deputies had an armed standoff with Mexican military," said Hudspeth County Sheriff Arvin West, who attended the Senate hearing.

West testified on Feb. 7 before the House Subcommittee on Investigations that Mexican military personnel have been assisting narcotics traffickers.

"We even checked the VIN number of the Humvee vehicle used in the incursion and it belongs to the Mexican military," he said. "There is still an ongoing investigation into the incident."

Sheriff A. D'Wayne Jernigan, of Val Verde County, Texas, testified on behalf of the Texas Sheriff's Border Coalition, an organization formed to create cooperation among agencies to deal with growing numbers of crimes along the Texas-Mexico border.

Jernigan was not the only Texas county sheriff to attend the hearing, but he was the only one to give testimony.

The sheriffs are spending the week meeting with senators and administration officials in hopes of persuading Senate leaders to pass strict border legislation in the coming months. The coalition is also hoping to add a clause to the Sensenbrenner Border Security bill, which passed the House in mid-December, for funding to hire more deputies along the Southwest border, West said.

"The crisis that we face on our border is not a racial issue, or even one of politics," Jernigan said. "This crisis is a red, white and blue national security crisis."

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a member of the subcommittee, added that although progress has been made along a 150-mile stretch of the border in the San Diego area, serious security issues remain along the rest of the Mexican border.

Feinstein asked the witnesses what was needed from the federal government to ensure the safety of the border.

Marcy Forman, Immigration and Customs Enforcement director of investigations, said her agency launched many initiatives to combat escalating violence on the border. But when asked by Feinstein if ICE or U.S. Customs and Border Patrol had any regular law enforcement relationship with the Mexican law enforcement, the answer was no.

Border Patrol officials said that Mexico's lack of cooperation impedes security on both sides of the border.

"The United States needs to recognize that it cannot rely upon its southern neighbor to stop the flow of illegal drugs across the Southwest border and must stop supplying financial aid to Mexico for that purpose," said TJ Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council, who testified at the hearings on behalf of the council's more than 10,000 agents.

"Officials at the highest levels of our government must inform officials at the highest levels of the government of Mexico in clear and unambiguous terms that armed incursions across our border will no longer be tolerated," he said.

Texas rancher Lavoyger Durham, who lives 75 miles north of the Mexican border, told senators that the Border Patrol has told him that within a five-mile radius of his ranch, 200-300 illegal immigrants move through every night.

"In my county alone, over 40 illegal immigrants are known to have died last year," Durham said.

They died not only because of the exposure to harsh elements, including blazing heat and bitter cold, but also at the hands of human smugglers or coyotes, as they are called along the border, Durham said.

The testimony law enforcement officials are giving is expected to shape immigration legislation on Capitol Hill this year, Cornyn added after the hearing.

Today several immigration bills will be discussed at a Judiciary Committee hearing, the committee which oversees immigration-related issues.

The bills in discussion will be The Border Protection, Antiterrorism and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2004, HR4437, sponsored by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., which passed the House in mid-December, and the Senate's version of an immigration bill that will include a guest-worker program.

Some have called Sensenbrenner's bill draconian, but others think it's not strict enough. And the Senate's version of immigration reform isn't immune to criticism either.

The House bill would make illegal immigration status in the United States an aggravated felony. The bill also requires all 147 million U.S. workers to obtain work verification cards. Employers who fail to verify a worker's legal status would face fines of up to $25,000 for each hire. It would require mandatory imprisonment of illegal immigrants caught at the border.

The Senate's proposal would allow undocumented immigrants to apply for a three-year work visa, which is renewable only once, and then it would require them to go home. The Senate bill does not allow for permanent residence.

"What illegal alien in their right mind would apply for this type of work visa?" Bonner asked. "If they know they're going to be sent home and they've already lived here for years, why would they apply for a visa? This type of guest worker program will not bring illegal (immigrants) out of the shadows -- we have to strictly enforce laws on employers who violate the laws."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boilingpoint; borderissues; borderpatrol; bordersecurity; borderwar; bushamnesty; drugsmuggling; guestworkerprogram; gwot; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; securityrisks; senatehearings; senatepanel; warnings; wod
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1 posted on 03/02/2006 9:21:20 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: BushFault

It is. Bush has been kissing Foxs' ass since day one. He's had 5 years to secure the border and refuses to do a damn thing.


3 posted on 03/02/2006 9:24:05 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is crap.

We don't need more hearings. We don't need more hand-wringing. We don't need more debate.

As a result of a 2004 bill that Bush signed, we were supposed to get 10,000 more BP agents on the border. But his 2006 budget only funded a couple hundred of those positions.

So we don't have more agents in the pipeline. So we need National Guard troops. NOW. In force. With orders to use lethal force against any armed groups coming over the border. That would stop that problem immediately - these goons are acting with impunity because there is no force to counter them.

4 posted on 03/02/2006 9:25:24 AM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: F16Fighter; the gillman@blacklagoon.com

ping


6 posted on 03/02/2006 9:26:35 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: NormsRevenge
Hey here is an idea a friend of mine had and shared with me. Use all the illegals that have been captured by the Border Patrol to build the wall. Put them up in moving temp barracks. Any that run away are permanently barred from entry to the US. When caught, they are returned to Mexico after a hard labor tour with no pay. Those that finish the effort, put them at the top of the line for a guest worker program.

Also, arrange to have a Navy or Marine base say down near Cancun, all returning illegals would be take there via military transport and sent out the front gate.
7 posted on 03/02/2006 9:27:29 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: NormsRevenge
January 23, 2005

AP photo/Hudspeth County Sheriff's Office/Texas Border Sheriffs Coalition


8 posted on 03/02/2006 9:28:09 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gubamyster

ping


9 posted on 03/02/2006 9:29:09 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: NormsRevenge
Cornyn is running interference for Jorge Bushtega and nothing more.
10 posted on 03/02/2006 9:30:16 AM PST by devane617 (The truth, not politics, is right for our beautiful America.)
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Now we know how the Romans felt as Roma burned around them and the policicians in the Senate fiddled and fiddled..


11 posted on 03/02/2006 9:30:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wasting their breath talking to Feinstein and Cornyn. They're part of the North American Community Club.


12 posted on 03/02/2006 9:31:23 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth!")
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To: dirtboy
"...We don't need more hearings. We don't need more hand-wringing. We don't need more debate...."

agreed. but, jus ain't PC to get down on illegals doing day labor, etc..
probably be awhile before 'joe six pack' sees that a deteriorating social environment is a matter of NATIONAL SECURITY at the street level.

13 posted on 03/02/2006 9:32:31 AM PST by 1234 (Border Control or IMPEACHMENT NOW)
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To: dirtboy
So we don't have more agents in the pipeline.

You are correct that Bush only asked for 210. But in their final spending bills last fall Congress coughed up enough dough to shove about 1600 of them down his unwilling throat. This was still short of the 2000 authorized but despite Bush, there was a little progress.

I'm fully on board with the idea that we need the National Guard on the Border until we get a 2000 mile triple fence built.

14 posted on 03/02/2006 9:33:55 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: NormsRevenge
I like the tagline I saw yesterday:

Press one for English. Press two to be deported.


BUMP

15 posted on 03/02/2006 9:35:03 AM PST by capitalist229 (Keep Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: buffmonster

He's not. He doesn't want to "offend" illegals.


16 posted on 03/02/2006 9:35:04 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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To: NormsRevenge
These hearings are just like ones about revising the tax code.

A JOKE!


17 posted on 03/02/2006 9:36:15 AM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: NormsRevenge

When another country sends their military across our borders, our military needs to respond. That’s an act of war, and the response should be overwhelming force so they don’t try it again.


19 posted on 03/02/2006 9:39:12 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: NormsRevenge; HiJinx; gubamyster


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


20 posted on 03/02/2006 9:39:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: NormsRevenge

"if you build it they won't come." -me


22 posted on 03/02/2006 9:40:46 AM PST by stand4somethin
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To: buffmonster

Well they have definitely offended me! I will not vote for another one of the bastids that refuses to enforce immigration laws.

Looks like my ballots will be almost empty.


23 posted on 03/02/2006 9:40:52 AM PST by sheana
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To: buffmonster

I'll be sitting out the elections unless something is done. I'm fed up with the GOP and Bushs' inaction on the border. No wonder their ratings are in the toilet. If polled I will voice my disapproval.


24 posted on 03/02/2006 9:40:52 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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To: Ron in Acreage; sheana

You two probably haven't voted in 10 years so I doubt the GOP will miss your phantom votes.


25 posted on 03/02/2006 9:42:34 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Pat Buchanan lost a family member in the holocaust. The man fell out of a guard tower.)
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To: COEXERJ145

pfttttttttt.....typical response.


26 posted on 03/02/2006 9:43:42 AM PST by sheana
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To: buffmonster
When is Bush going to remedy this by securing the border? Anything less endangers Americans.

Never. It would threaten the new world order, global, multinational corporate business model to which Bush owes his soul.

28 posted on 03/02/2006 9:45:32 AM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: NormsRevenge

Do we have to wait until there is a massive gun battle between the Mexican Army and the Border Patrol which the BP will lose because the MA has superior firepower?


29 posted on 03/02/2006 9:45:50 AM PST by BobDobbs9911
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To: sheana
No different than your "I'll never vote GOP again" crap that all you anti-GOPers always spew.
31 posted on 03/02/2006 9:47:27 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (Pat Buchanan lost a family member in the holocaust. The man fell out of a guard tower.)
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To: usnavy45

Why don't you switch your party affiliation to Independent and write me in for President?

I am planning on changing my party affiliation ASAP since I can't trust either party anymore. (sigh)


32 posted on 03/02/2006 9:47:56 AM PST by BobDobbs9911
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To: taxcontrol

Great minds think alike. I have also had the idea, and I'm sure others agree.


33 posted on 03/02/2006 9:49:38 AM PST by Mini-14
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To: COEXERJ145

I didn't say I would never vote GOP again. I will support and vote for ANY Republican that wants to enforce our immigration laws and put Americans first for a change.
If that is not their agenda then no, they will not get my vote.


34 posted on 03/02/2006 9:50:09 AM PST by sheana
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To: COEXERJ145

Wrong you are. Voted for Dole, Bush twice. Mel Martinez for senate also.


35 posted on 03/02/2006 9:53:16 AM PST by Ron in Acreage (Liberal Democrats-Party before country, surrender before victory, generous with other peoples money.)
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To: taxcontrol
Also, arrange to have a Navy or Marine base say down near Cancun, all returning illegals would be take there via military transport and sent out the front gate.

Terrible waste of money. Here's a better more cost effective mode of transport for returning the criminal invaders.


36 posted on 03/02/2006 9:55:55 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: usnavy45
I use to think that this "new world order" crap was just that, CRAP....

I found this related post on FR yesterday, and I've been seething ever since. Note that this article was written by Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the author of The Opportunity: America's Moment to Alter History's Course. (WARNING: BARF ALERT)

State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era

37 posted on 03/02/2006 10:03:40 AM PST by OB1kNOb (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !!)
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To: usnavy45

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html


38 posted on 03/02/2006 10:09:03 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth!")
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To: COEXERJ145

I vote, my wife votes, and we both agree with you. If the GOP don't do something about the situation right now they will be on my has been list. This border thing is some kind of American Madness and has to end.


39 posted on 03/02/2006 10:13:41 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: dirtboy
This is crap.

We don't need more hearings. We don't need more hand-wringing. We don't need more debate.

Get used to it. It's been going on for decades.

Undocumented Aliens
Message To The Congress
By Jimmy Carter
August 4, 1977

To the Congress of the United States:

I am proposing to Congress today a set of actions to help markedly reduce the increasing flow of undocumented aliens in this country and to regulate the presence of the millions of undocumented aliens already here.

These proposed actions are based on the results of a thorough Cabinet-level study and on the groundwork which has been laid, since the beginning of the decade, by Congressmen Rodino and Eilberg and Senators Eastland and Kennedy. These actions will:

· Make unlawful the hiring of undocumented aliens, with enforcement by the Justice Department against those employers who engage in a "pattern or practice" of such hiring. Penalties would be civil-injunctions and fines of $1000 per undocumented alien hired. Criminal penalties could be imposed by the courts against employers violating injunctions. Moreover, employers, and others, receiving compensation for knowingly assisting an undocumented alien obtain or retain a job would also be subject to criminal penalties.

[snip]


40 posted on 03/02/2006 10:27:15 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: COEXERJ145
You two probably haven't voted in 10 years so I doubt the GOP will miss your phantom votes.

We are the ones that saved you from John Kerry...It won't happen again...You deserve him...

41 posted on 03/02/2006 10:27:39 AM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: usnavy45

"The more I look at the big picture the more it dawns on me that bush is a NWO soldier."

Welcome to the club, usnavy45!!!! Been wondering how long it would take to get you to see the big picture. We are accepting thousands of new members every day.

It seems like the only campaign promises that President Bush and his dad have kept is their advancement towards a "New World Order", which they both stated in their inaugaral speeches.

Be prepared to be called unpatriotic, traitor, racist, terrorist, anti-American, Bush-hater, John Bircher, commie lover etc. The list is way too long to post here.

Welcome aboard, my friend. I must jump into my flame-proof suit immediately. Good luck.


42 posted on 03/02/2006 10:28:38 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax

....and don't forget that if you don't robot yourself to vote any Republican you are endorsing Hillary!
That is the one that gets me.


43 posted on 03/02/2006 10:32:39 AM PST by sheana
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To: 1234

1234 (Border Control or IMPEACHMENT NOW)

Love your tagline!!!!


44 posted on 03/02/2006 10:33:45 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: taxcontrol

I have a simple solution. Escalating penalties for entering the US illegally. First time we catch you, you get a free trip home. If you come back, 30 days in a camp. Try it again, 90 days. One more time and you're the guest of Uncle Sam for two years. I don't like paying a lot to house prisoners, so I suggest putting Sheriff Joe in charge of running the operation.


45 posted on 03/02/2006 10:37:12 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: Flavius Josephus
One more time and you're the guest of Uncle Sam for two years.

And put 'em to work building the border wall during that time.

46 posted on 03/02/2006 10:41:07 AM PST by dirtboy (I'm fat, I sleep most of the winter and I saw my shadow yesterday. Does that make me a groundhog?)
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To: NormsRevenge

"The porous southern border of the United States is a national security risk."
Someone let the cat out of the bag and told these people....


47 posted on 03/02/2006 10:44:33 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: usnavy45

Actions speak louder then words, don't they.

Welcome aboard.


48 posted on 03/02/2006 10:51:24 AM PST by planekT (<- http://www.wadejacoby.com/pedro/ ->)
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To: usnavy45

"...exactly my friend. I will be sitting out this upcoming election myself. Bush is doing what the dems havent been able to do, split and fracture the republican party."


Hey Shipmate, retired AEC and Nam vet here. I consider myself a conservative. I don't suck up to any politician because it's beginning to look like there's no difference between them. They all worship the money God and most will sell their souls for a dollar and a vote.

Eight years no border action on Clinton's watch. Five years plus, no border action on Bush's watch and that's costing this nation billions. I drew my line in the sand after the 2004 presidental election. You don't secure the borders and stop the flow of illegal aliens, you don't deserve my vote and you won't get it. End of story.


49 posted on 03/02/2006 10:59:02 AM PST by airdalechief
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To: panaxanax
Be prepared to be called unpatriotic, traitor, racist, terrorist, anti-American, Bush-hater, John Bircher, commie lover etc. The list is way too long to post here

And absolutely DO NOT disagree with the UAE port deal....that will bring on the COINTELPRO crowd so fast, and in such numbers that you can't type fast enough to keep up with the insults......

50 posted on 03/02/2006 11:06:07 AM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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