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We should fear Holland’s silence
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-2058502,00.html ^ | Douglas Murray

Posted on 02/27/2006 9:12:41 AM PST by mal

Would you write the name you’d like to use here, and your real name there?” asked the girl at reception. I had just been driven to a hotel in the Hague. An hour earlier I’d been greeted at Amsterdam airport by a man holding a sign with a pre-agreed cipher. I hadn’t known where I would be staying, or where I would be speaking. The secrecy was necessary: I had come to Holland to talk about Islam. Last weekend, four years after his murder, Pim Fortuyn’s political party, Lijst Pim Fortuyn, held a conference in his memory on Islam and Europe. The organisers had assembled nearly all the writers most critical of Islam’s current manifestation in the West. The American scholars Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer were present, as were the Egyptian-Jewish exile and scholar of dhimmitude, Bat Ye’or, and the great Muslim apostate Ibn Warraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: censorship; deathofthewest; dhimmis; dhimmitude; jihad; muslims; netherlands; terrorists; thenetherlands; wot

1 posted on 02/27/2006 9:12:43 AM PST by mal
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To: 4bbldowndraft

Good! We'll go Dutch!.........


3 posted on 02/27/2006 9:16:35 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: Red Badger

Double Dutch!


4 posted on 02/27/2006 9:21:03 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (The only good muslim is a bad muslim)
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To: mal

Their leader had been called in by the police to discuss more than 40 new death threats he had received over the previous days.

What else needs to be said...................


5 posted on 02/27/2006 9:22:54 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Flavius Josephus

Is that like tulips on an organ?.......


6 posted on 02/27/2006 9:23:42 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: 4bbldowndraft

Man this is anything but humorous. The Europeans would not stand against Hitler either and we know the results of that. This is really scary stuff to me.


7 posted on 02/27/2006 9:28:22 AM PST by Winston Smith
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To: mal

Somber article. We may be writing the same thing here, soon. From your link:


"Holland -- with its disproportionately high Muslim population -- is the canary in the mine. Its once open society is closing, and Europe is closing slowly behind it.
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Europe is shuffling into darkness. It is proving incapable of standing up to its enemies, and in an effort to accommodate the peripheral rights of a minority is failing to protect the most basic rights of its own people.

The governments of Europe have been tricked into believing that criticism of a belief is the same thing as criticism of a race. And so it is becoming increasingly difficult and dangerous to criticise a growing and powerful ideology within our midst. It may soon, in addition, be made illegal."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-2058502,00.html


8 posted on 02/27/2006 9:29:52 AM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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It is proving incapable of standing up to its enemies, and in an effort to accommodate the peripheral rights of a minority is failing to protect the most basic rights of its own people.

It's cowardice dressed up to look like tolerance.

9 posted on 02/27/2006 9:31:34 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Winston Smith

I agree


10 posted on 02/27/2006 9:31:50 AM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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"It seems the British police — who regularly provide protection for mosques (as they did after the 7/7 bombs) — were unable to send even one policeman to protect an organ of free speech. At the notorious London protests, Islamists were allowed to incite murder and bloodshed on the streets, but a passer-by objecting to these displays was threatened with detention for making trouble."



What in the world is going on with this????

If I was the tinfoil hat type I would think Western powers are using Islam as an excuse to further subjugate their own populations.
11 posted on 02/27/2006 9:32:07 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: mal

"A society which should be carefree and inspiring has become dark and worried."

I can't help but think that this is, to a large degree, the ripening fruit of unrestrained hedonism and liberalism.


13 posted on 02/27/2006 9:37:00 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: mal

bump for publicity


14 posted on 02/27/2006 9:41:48 AM PST by VOA
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To: PetroniusMaximus
I agree with you - this is a direct consequence of hedonistic consumerist culture propelled by liberals.

Great article.

15 posted on 02/27/2006 9:43:36 AM PST by K. Smirnov (Do not let the sands of time get into your lunch)
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To: bwteim
This is really incredible. The "mindlessness" with which the civilized world is ruled is unbelievable.

There is NO reason why the citizens of a civilized country should be cringing in fear of an uninvited demoniac sect that has infested their land...the result of stupid multiculturalism imposed by their socialist politicians.

Does not Holland have a military establishment? They should implement the Australian model...tell the demoniac's to assimilate or leave. Under no circumstances will islam be imposed on the Netherlands. Then order the military to begin search and destroy operations to clear their land of all islamiac influence.

They are nothing more than enemy combatants out of uniform...in other words espionage agents. They should be rounded up and shot.

16 posted on 02/27/2006 10:38:54 AM PST by kimosabe31
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"they should implement the Australian model...tell the demoniac's to assimilate or leave."

don't be too optimistic.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1586358/posts

"Vale cites the words of an imam at one mosque in Sydney who claims that within half a century Australia will be a Muslim state."


17 posted on 02/27/2006 12:02:21 PM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: mal

BTTT


18 posted on 02/28/2006 7:25:52 AM PST by aculeus
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To: mal

bump


19 posted on 02/28/2006 10:00:37 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: mal

Europe has really changed for the negative of what it was several decades ago. It's sad.


20 posted on 02/28/2006 10:05:58 PM PST by Fruitbat
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