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The "teach the controversy" party's over [Intelligent Design]
National Center for Science Education ^ | 24 February 2006 | Staff

Posted on 02/24/2006 1:26:26 PM PST by PatrickHenry

"A mendacious bit of hucksterism" is Robert Camp's description of the "teach the controversy" slogan frequently used to promote the teaching of "intelligent design" in the public schools. And it's not just idle rhetoric. Rather, it's based firmly on the results of a survey that he conducted of the heads of biology departments in colleges and universities around the country. As Camp explains, "If there are authoritative voices on the purported existence of a controversy among biologists regarding mechanisms of evolution, they belong to those individuals who are well aware of the most current scholarship in their field and are in touch with daily discussion of that scholarship."

In his new article Turn out the lights, the 'teach the controversy' party's over, posted on the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal's Creationism and Intelligent Design Watch website, Camp reports on his survey, in which he asked the heads of biology departments whether, with respect to "intelligent design," there is "a difference of professional opinion within your department that you feel could be accurately described as a scientific controversy." Over 97% of his respondents answered in the negative. "As an attempt to put empirical weight behind that which has been well understood all along," Camp concludes, "the numbers here are unambiguous."

And the remaining 3%, representing two of the 73 respondents? Camp explains, "One, a 'No, but ...,' observed that there was virtually no professional controversy within their department but acknowledged that one colleague had spoken favorably of the concept publicly .... And the only assent to controversy came from an institution [which Camp elsewhere describes as "a theological medical university"] dedicated to an ideological view of the world, including the world of biology," adding, "This may serve as evidence of a 'controversy' in that particular university. But in the larger context, its effect is only to put the overwhelming consensus into sharper focus."


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The linked article is well worth reading. Here's another link: Turn out the lights, the 'teach the controversy' party's over.

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1 posted on 02/24/2006 1:26:28 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 02/24/2006 1:27:47 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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Rather, it's based firmly on the results of a survey that he conducted of the heads of biology departments in colleges and universities around the country.

Substitute "choir members" and "cheeleaders" for "heads of biology departments" and we might have a more accurate story.

3 posted on 02/24/2006 1:28:34 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: PatrickHenry

So who wrote the article?


4 posted on 02/24/2006 1:29:58 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: PatrickHenry

interesting article but not surprising.


5 posted on 02/24/2006 1:30:58 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: PatrickHenry

No surprise here at all, of course, but it's good someone collected the data.


6 posted on 02/24/2006 1:31:05 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: PatrickHenry

Ping me when a D14 or equivalent shows up. :)


7 posted on 02/24/2006 1:33:02 PM PST by M203M4
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No surprise here at all, of course, but it's good someone collected the data.

Yes, especially when some woefully ignorant school board is being gulled into doing what they tried in Dover. It's very useful to be able to give them a study to show that there's no "controversy" at all.

8 posted on 02/24/2006 1:33:11 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I agree. Until professors include the theory of the Invisible Pink Bunny Who Created the World, our children will not have the full range of information upon which to reach informed opinions.


9 posted on 02/24/2006 1:34:15 PM PST by Pelagius
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10 posted on 02/24/2006 1:35:00 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: PatrickHenry

What a shame that the shear wonder of the universe seems missed in the screaming.


11 posted on 02/24/2006 1:35:56 PM PST by onedoug
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To: orionblamblam

Didja hear? Magellan renounced the global world on his deathbed.


12 posted on 02/24/2006 1:38:10 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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13 posted on 02/24/2006 1:40:28 PM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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14 posted on 02/24/2006 1:42:35 PM PST by M203M4
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Didja hear? Magellan renounced the global world on his deathbed.

He had reason to be ticked off at the world.

15 posted on 02/24/2006 1:43:46 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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I do have one question. When scientific theories are introduced they normally have a "top down" life cycle. They normally start out at the University level and if they seem to hold their weight against the evidence, they work their way down into the public schools. However this is the first time I have ever seen a theory try and take a bottom up approach... that is start out in the public schools and work your way into the Universities. Has anyone else ever seen a theory take this type of route?

Also I have never heard of a scientific theory that was based on an invisible intelligence. We could say that all phenomena in the end are because of God right? But even the most devout scientists that ever lived would not base their theories on God. It isn't because they were heretics at all, it was because God is so omnipotent that to use him as the answer to everything sort of puts a stop on even attempting to study it. We would never get very far understanding nature if we followed that approach. But this is exactly what seems to be happening with the Intelligent Design theory.

16 posted on 02/24/2006 1:44:17 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: gondramB
I think that it is now a very similar dynamic to the MSM. The "gatekeepers" of ideas, the ones who teach the classes and print the textbooks, can no longer completely control the flow of ideas. They say "it's over, we win", but as long as there are websites, the alternative information is out there, and the idea has moved into the James Dean padigem...cool to rebel and question the party line.

If you drew a straight line between "7-Day Creationists" on the right and "Godless Evolutionists" on the left, I would be about 1/2 way to the right of center. I think God took a while and did a bazillion miracles to get us here with free will to study the universe and draw our own conclusions, the correct one being that He's the Big Engineer. Mrs. 50's Dad is way out there on the left, but I tell her, my business is preaching Salvation and Grace, not driving science-minded people away from Christ by beating them over the head with Genesis. God will explain the real way that He did It five minutes after I am dead, and it probably won't matter to me then. (I'd rather teach Grace and forgiveness and let people bang their heads together about Creation after they are saved, that being the main goal of the thing.)

Now, the rest of you can flame away and turn this into another five-million-post thread on the subject!

17 posted on 02/24/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by 50sDad (Racist: Anyone who is winning an argument with a Liberal.)
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To: PatrickHenry

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: " - 1 Timothy 6:20


18 posted on 02/24/2006 1:47:50 PM PST by RoadTest ("- - a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people." - Richard Henry Lee, 1786)
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To: PatrickHenry
The individual comments at the end are just wonderful to read!
19 posted on 02/24/2006 1:49:09 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: trashcanbred

Your understanding is correct. ID tried (and is still trying) to bluff its unearned way into science classrooms.


20 posted on 02/24/2006 1:51:13 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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