Censure Costello: Muslim leader

Herald Sun ^ | 24 February 2006

[highlander_UW]

A lot of moozies aren't flash with the truth!

I've spent a couple of years in a Christian ministry to muslims...I have noticed truth is one of the first casualties from their lips. Jesus is the cure.

[coydog]

I like Costello's spunk, but if I were in his position, I would have phrased it something like this: "If you want to live under a theocracy that dictates how you live and how you dress and how you go to the bathroom and denies equal rights to women and persecutes non-believers, by all means move to such a place!". The multicultis couldn't act against him without their argument completely falling apart, and the local Jihadi couldn't say a word without basically admitting that THEY are the ones he's referring to. Everyone else would have no trouble getting it either. It's a rhetorical tactic that forces your opponent to come onto a battlefield of your choosing.

[Aussie Dasher]

Labor has been as quiet as the grave this morning!

[NRA2BFree]

Whine, whine, whine. I'm sick of the "we're being picked on" crybabies. The ACLU has been teaching Muslims in America how to whine, when to whine, and what to whine about. I don't know which I detest more. The ACLU or Muslims who whine. For that matter, any race OR political party (RATS) who whine all the time. They don't seem to understand if they want to get respect, they're going to have to earn it. If they're going to be accepted into our societies, they are going to have to change.

[Emmet Fitzhume]

I know.

Have you seen the film, "Dawn of the Dead?"

I think of Muslims everytime I see the maniacal zombies trying to mindlessly destroy whatever they find.

[paudio]

Labor has been as quiet as the grave this morning!

They're probably discussing how to reconcile their dilemma: multiculturalism or sharia laws, with some leaders think, "Those bloody Muslims, why do they want sharia laws in multicultural society like Australia?"

[Fishrrman]

From the article:
"Rather than try to promote understanding and harmony in this society, his comments are highly divisive and he is stirring up Islamophobia, and these comments should really be beneath any decent politician."

Au contraire. It is only when the "decent politicians" of The West begin stating the truths that Mr. Costello has enumerated that The West will stand a chance of WINNING the war with Islam.

And this also includes that fella who lives down in D.C. who goes around spouting that Islam is a "religion of peace".

- John

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.moriel.org/articles/discernment/islam/sheik_likely_to_stay_as_islamic_leader.htm

Keysar Trad used to act as spokeman for the (honorary title) Mufti of Australia and New Zealand, Sheik Hilali:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12226

The Mufti of Australia and New Zealand, Taj Al-Din Hamed Abdallah Al-Hilali, was born in Egypt's Suhag district in 1941. He graduated from Al-Azhar University and served as a preacher in Egypt, Libya, and Lebanon. In 1982 he came to Australia, and in 1988 he was appointed to his present position by the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils. The following is a collection of speeches and writings by Mufti Al-Hilali: (1)
A Call for Jihad from Lebanon

In a February 13, 2004 sermon at the Al-Quds mosque while on a visit to Sidon, Lebanon, the Mufti of Australia and New Zealand, Taj Al-Din Al-Hilali, called for Jihad against Israel, and added: "The war waged by the U.S. and Israel against the Muslims is a cruel war aimed at annihilating the [Islamic] nation."

Sheikh Al-Hilali expressed amazement that various Arab countries and leaders had avoided hosting the upcoming Arab summit, and added: "In any event, we have become accustomed to the fact that these summits produce nothing, neither cockroach nor mouse.(2)

"We are in dire need of real men these days in light of the situation in Jerusalem and Palestine... Your leaders are looking for a venue and no one dares address an invitation for the leaders of this stricken nation ... because we lack strong leadership. In the past, in Arab and Islamic history, we were governed by real men, but nowadays we are governed by semi-men."(3)

Following a meeting with Hizbullah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, Sheikh Al-Hilali said: "I blessed Hizbullah for liberating the prisoners and the bones of the Shahids and I praised it and its sacrifice. Hizbullah has become a model for all the Mujahideen in the world... Most of the Australian people do not support the policy of the Australian government, which has placed Hizbullah on the terror list out of submission to the U.S., and the Australian prime minister will pay the price for this in the next elections...."(4)

Anti-American and Anti-Western Sentiment

This is not the first time that Sheikh Al-Hilali expressed anti-American or anti-European sentiment. In a speech in March 2003, he likened "Bush Jr." to the son of Genghis Khan, calling him "the most ignorant president to lead the White House."(5) Sheikh Al-Hilali also declared that President Bush, Australian Prime Minister John Howard, and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are the "axis of evil."(6)

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Trad may have distanced himself from the mufti because 20 muslim groups attempted to have Hilali removed from the Lakemba mosque...(sadly without success) but neither of these two leopards has changed a single spot.

And our Government is very well aware of that, obviously.

(Howard won the 'the next elections' HIS THIRD TERM by a bigger margin than the previous.)

[beesidemeusa]

As long as the Koran says that it is alright to treat non-Islamics as lesser beings, without the same rights and value as Moslems, then all non-Moslems must oppose it. When it is considered right to murder a Moslem who converts to another religion, beat to death a 14 year old boy for eating during Ramadan or a woman for walking alone on a public street then we must reject that law with all our might. Aussies, wake up and stand up to this insanity. Let the fundamentalists feel your boot in the bum as you send their bums back to where they came from. Be strong for freedom!

[Aussie Dasher]

I think you'll find it was Howard's FOURTH term! FIFTH coming next year...

[Fred Nerks]

Whoops! Sorry. He's been around so long, I've lost count.

[tomkat]

As long as the Koran says ...

Allow me to paraphrase:

[Mr. Brightside]

"What? Me? What did I do?"

[Fred Nerks]

Australia: A push for more responsible moderate leadership of Australia's Muslim community:


"The controversial head of Australia's Muslims, Sheikh Taj Din al-Hilali, is under threat from a new Islamic council that is trying to gather support for an alternative leader. The Islamic High Council of Australia was formed in southwestern Sydney this month with plans to become the leading organisation of the country's 400,000 Muslims.

"Members of the council said their goal was to appoint a mufti of their own, in a direct challenge to Sheikh Hilali, the current mufti of Australia. The council is hoping to tap into disenchantment in some Muslim communities with Sheikh Hilali over his controversial speeches, in which he reportedly attacked Jews and supported suicide bombers...

"A spokesman for the new council, Mahmoud Krayem, said yesterday that 20 Muslim organisations had joined the council from different ethnic backgrounds around the country, including Afghan, Indonesian, Pakistani and Lebanese...

"The spiritual leader of the new council, Sheikh Salim Alwan Al-Hasani, said there was a need for a moderate umbrella organisation that 'totally refuses all kinds of extremism' and rejects interference from overseas."
According to Sheikh Alwan, "In looking at the current state of the Muslim leadership in Australia, we can confidently say there is an urgent need for the unity of all the moderate sheikhs, sincere scholars and the highly qualified and educated members of the community." In a dig at the perceived influence of Saudi Wahhabi money, Sheikh added that "Darul-Fatwa Islamic High Council of Australia [as the new group is known] is not a tool serving the interests of any foreign government nor does it accept or receive funds from any overseas sources." His final words offer encouragement for all those who hope to see the Muslim community taking a strong stance against the Islamist cancer: "Darul-Fatwa totally refuses all kinds of extremism as it refuses its elements from any group or individual and declares all acts of extremism unrelated to Islam, as Islam is not related to them in spite of those who claim otherwise."


http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2004/11/good-news-from-islamic-world-part-2.html

Ok, so Hilali's still hangin in there, but IMO it's clear to whom the Governments message is addressed.

[attiladhun2]

My problem with CAIR, IFAA, and all such groups is they are quick to pounce on real or imagined insults to their religion, but very slow to condemn the bombers and head-loppers who commit atrocities in the name of their religion. In fact, their silence is down-right deafening.
When a spokesman for one of these groups is interviewed by the Lame Stream Press, he (or occasionally she) will preface his remarks with a statement to the effect that "We condemn all acts of terror", implying that Israeli retaliation against HAMAS, the Islamic Jihad, Hizbullah, et al, is morally equivalent to the homicide bombing of school buses, pizza parlors, markets, etc. They then repeat a litany of abuses against Islam. So you are left with the feeling you get when someone gives you a left-handed compliment.

[Fred Nerks]

Keysar Trad, president of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia

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http://catallaxyfiles.blogspot.com/2002_10_06_catallaxyfiles_archive.html



Keysar Trad shows his true colours
The Muslim community leader who was recently given an arse-licking profile in the Herald doesn't sound too happy with his adopted country - Chris Textor has something to say about this. Here are some charming comments from Trad's essay:

"...from the Muslim viewpoint, our ideology is the best salvation for the people of Australia, and the people of the world in general. Yes, we are a threat to the culture of drunkenness, paedophilia, and mostly we are a big threat to the culture of ELITISM ...

The criminal dregs of white society colonised this country, and now, they only take the select choice of other societies, and the descendants of these criminal dregs tell us that they are better than us. And because we are not elitists, we tolerate them. Yet they want us to assimilate, perhaps they will only become satisfied when we each die our hair red, wear blue/green contact lenses, and operate a fish and chips shop, otherwise, we would not be truly assimilating, would we?


(But don't worry, he's an equal opportunity vilifier:)

"India, the Asian country which is dominated by the lowest of the low amongst racists, the class society which divides its own people into four classes and places people of other faiths, and Muslims in particular as the lowest of the low. The policies of these cow worshippers, and their extermination of Muslims in their countries and inside Kashmir (to the silence of Western countries) is one more example of how this feeling of elitism is not restricted to the colour of the elitist, it is a lifestyle of those idiots who have intoxicated themselves with a false feeling of power, and who actively exercise this power against others.


(Perhaps that's why India has a Muslim President.
It seems he doesn't like fat people either - all you PC crusaders at the Herald, take note of what your arse licked profilee has to say:)

"It is astounding how, when Pauline started the assimilation argument that the media found a Muslim woman wearing the Hijab, slightly overweight, doing her shopping, and channel nine would show her in an advertisement for one of their shows, right after the assimilation comment. They do not film a fat Australian woman in tight bicycle shorts, or tight pants, or an Australian drunk, or a nun, or an Australian welfare cheat. NO!!! They show a Muslim woman wearing a Hijab, she is not assimilating, it would be okay if this same woman walked around in bicycle shorts, with her body vulgarly bulging out to the point of regurgitation."

(Now, how FRIENDLY IS THAT?)

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/relrpt/stories/s1233723.htm

Interesting interview with Keysar Trad.

[kenavi]

Tony Abbott is our EXCELLENT very pro-life Health Minister!

Pair him with Costello, and he'll make an EXCELLENT straight man! You can call them "Abbott and Costello", it's got a nice ring to it.

[kimosabe31]

Fred, how do I find your page for URL free pdf on mohammad??

[Fred Nerks]

http://muhammadanism.org/Canon_Sell/default.htm

here's a link to all of Canon Edward Sell's pdf downloads. The best one to read first IMO is THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. It was first published in 1913 and contains numerous source notes.