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The National Shipping Company of Saudi Arabia
The National Shipping Company of Saudi Arabia ^ | 02.23.06 | Web Research

Posted on 02/23/2006 10:56:01 AM PST by antaresequity

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To: F16Fighter

As I said...an open mind and knowledge is all it takes.


141 posted on 02/24/2006 12:02:01 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: F16Fighter
The problem that I have is that this is a post-9/11 mindset, a transaction such as this should be treated different now. Any deal that was made prior to 9/11 with a foreign port company should have been greatly scrutinized or reviewed after 9/11 (such as this Saudi port).

Have any of these transactions taken place after 9/11, where a company such as Saudi Arabia, or from the Middle East taken control of port operations?

Any deal that was made after 9/11 with a foreign port company (specifically Arab), I'm sure everyone would have a problem with and should be highly scrutinized. I can't believe that some people here that are strong on national security are using the argument "well Saudi Arabia owns many ports" to justify this Dubai purchase.

Post 9/11....cartoon chaos....new mindset.
142 posted on 02/24/2006 12:08:35 PM PST by dcgard
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To: Stellar Dendrite


Have a nice vacation. You earned it.


143 posted on 02/24/2006 12:26:50 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: antaresequity

Here are some of the leading Container Operators that have bases at ports in the USA. (excluding DP World and P&O)

APM Terminals - Part of the AP Moller - Maersk Group with corporate headquarters in Copenhagen, Denmark. North American Global Terminals include: Baltimore, Charleston, Houston, Jacksonville, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, Oakland, Port Elizabeth, Port Everglades, Portsmouth, Savannah, Tacoma

China Ocean Shipping (Group) Company (aka COSCO) - the national flag carrier of the People's Republic of China. Headquartered in Shanghai. USA Terminals include: Port Newark/Elizabeth Marine Complex, Baltimore, Charleston, Houston, Long Beach, Miami, New Orleans, Norfolk, Oakland, Savannah, Seattle.

APL - wholly owned subsidiary of Singapore-based Neptune Orient Lines. Services to North America include the ports of New York, Los Angeles, Seattle and the Pacific Northwest.

Hanjin - ports in United States include Boston, Charleston, Long Beach, New York, Norfolk, Oakland, Portland, Savannah, Seattle, Wilmington, Port Everglades/Miami.

Orient Overseas Container Line (OOCL) - wholly owned subsidiary of Orient Overseas (International) Limited (OOIL) based in Hong Kong. Dedicated terminals at Long Beach Container Terminal in California, Global Terminal in New York and New Jersey, Howland Hook in New York.

Evergreen Marine Com - Taiwan based. American ports include Baltimore, Boston, Charleston, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Portland, Savannah, Seattle. Officially opened a new state of the art Pierce County Container Terminal at the Port of Tacoma in Jan 2005.

Mediterranean Shipping Company (MSC) - based in Geneva Switzerland. US Ports include Boston, New York, Baltimore, Norfolk.

Mitsui OSK Lines - based in Tokyo Japan. Ports in the USA include New York, Baltimore, Charleston, Savannah, New Orleans, Los Angeles, Seattle.

NYK Line - Japanese based. Also includes Ceres Container Terminals, Nippon Container Terminals, NYK Terminals in North America, Yusen Terminals.

Grand Alliance - includes Hapag-Lloyd Container Line (HLCL), MISC Berhad, Nippon Ysen Kaisha and OOCL. Restructured their services following the phasing out of the Maersk-acquired P&O Nedlloyd vessels. Ports of service include: New York, Charleston, New Orleans, Houston, Miami, Seattle, Savannah

There was not one single US based company on the list of 23 Terminal Container Operators. Many of the companies do have US offices despite being based in a foreign country. So when you hear about an Arab takeover at our ports, you need to remind people that Japan, Switzerland and China already have their feet in the door.


144 posted on 02/24/2006 12:28:12 PM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (Join the chickenhawk express at www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger
Thanks for the info!

Here is a comprehensive list of all P&O operations in North America...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1584975/posts

145 posted on 02/24/2006 12:29:58 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger

Interesting post, however it doesn't concern me that Japan, Switzerland, and even China already own ports. If something goes down in Taiwan, then the China issue becomes more relevant, but I wouldn't expect to hear that we have been attacked by a Chinese, Japanese, or Swiss terrorist.


146 posted on 02/24/2006 12:31:29 PM PST by dcgard
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To: onyx

LOL.


147 posted on 02/24/2006 12:50:37 PM PST by Peach
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To: F16Fighter

You've touched on the right issues. It doesn't really matter for the amen contingency.

There are four main issues that concern me at the present time, with ragard to our borders.

1. Our Southern border is wide open, with three to five million unknows coming across each year now.

2. We are still allowing significant numbers of people to enter our nation from terrorist states.

3. We check about 2.5% of all trucking and shipping that crosses our borders. 97.5% of all trucking and shipping goes through with no security checks. Now it is true that we do have some presence on foreign soil, checking containers before they are shipped, but I'm not convinced they check more than another 2.5%

4. We have foreign nations loading cargo bound for the U.S. China, Middle-Eastern states, and even some other states could cause serious problems for us. The coast guard checks these ships, but it doesn't check cargo. They may do a radiation check, but that isn't the only problem.

5. We now have foreign concerns operating all of our ports. These foreign concerns can now determine many of our security policies. That's information that could be used against us down the road.

Perhaps I should list this as number six, but every six months to a year, we hear of another hair brained idea that will impact our security. If you ask yourself what would be an outlandish plan, it's sure to be put in motion shortly.


148 posted on 02/24/2006 3:47:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: onyx

Thanks!!


149 posted on 02/25/2006 2:05:22 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Anti-Israel and funds CAIR, check my homepage for more info)
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To: antaresequity
This picture is chilling.

Notice anything in the background?

150 posted on 02/27/2006 5:20:32 AM PST by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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