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1 posted on 02/23/2006 5:12:45 AM PST by Cagey
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One conviction - you get the DUI plate.

Two convictions - you get prison and make the plates.

2 posted on 02/23/2006 5:17:04 AM PST by jigsaw (David Gregory will be the last to know he's shooting his mouth off.)
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Why am I suddenly seeing FReepers wearing arm bands labeled "GOP" on them...


4 posted on 02/23/2006 5:21:19 AM PST by Old Sarge (In a Hole in the Ground, there Lived a Fobbit...)
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I approve of this. A person convicted twice of drunk driving is clearly irresponsible, and his civil rights don't include keeping other drivers ignorant of his potential threat. That, along with being free of without-probable-cause traffic stops, is a privilege he's forfeited by his dangerous behavior. Finally, if he's capable of feeling it, public shame and embarrassment are sometimes useful tools to motivate someone to change his behavior, and (more likely) for those who see him to vow, "I'm never going to put myself in that position."


5 posted on 02/23/2006 5:24:18 AM PST by American Quilter (To spare the guilty is to injure the innocent. - Publius Syrus)
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As the only child of alcoholic parents, I saw (and experienced) the chaos alcohol caused -- so I vowed to never drink. And, I never have.

We only had one car, and, I am not convinced that "special tags" would have kept my folks from driving -- drunk or sober. I do know that, as a (always sober) teenager, I would have been mortified to ride in (much less drive) such a "tagged" car.

Alcoholics don't live "in a vacuum"; they do more than enough mental damage to their families. Why add to it with "feel-good" stigmatizing legislation?

7 posted on 02/23/2006 5:27:58 AM PST by TXnMA (TROP: Satan's most successful earthly venture...)
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WBAL reported critics have called the measure a bumper sticker solution to crash prevention.

They're right.

My kids told me about this last night. It makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck whenever someone starts demagoguing an issue like this. Usually, it's done to distract from something else. 'Pod.

12 posted on 02/23/2006 5:32:04 AM PST by sauropod ("All you get is controversy, crap and confusion." Alan Simpson defining the WH Pimp Corps.)
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So will they issue a second plate for the other driver of the vehicle, if necessary?


14 posted on 02/23/2006 5:32:44 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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This is really stupid. Does it require all vehicles in your name to be tagged? What about most married couples who jointly own their vehicles? If my husband had 2 DUIs, how would it make sense for me to drive around with DUI on my license plate?

What about households with teenage or adult children, live in parents, etc? What if I had a live in father that had more than 1 DUI and no car, but I occasionally let him drive my car? Would I have to DUI my car?

The point I am trying to make here is that a person's car can be driven by many people... DUI on the driver's license would make more sense (honestly, I question why people with multiple DUIs still have driver's licenses though).

19 posted on 02/23/2006 5:37:27 AM PST by Kaylee Frye
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"It's intended to track people who have had two or more offenses dealing with drunken driving,"

I support this. One time can be a dumb mistake, but any responsible person would learn from that. Two times is irresponsible, it's the person's own fault at that point, better to hammer them then, than have them kill someone.

On the other hand, loads of illegal Mexicans love to drink and drive. They shouldn't be in the country, shouldn't be driving, shouldn't be drinking, and their illegal behavior shouldn't be tolerated. Does anyone think this tag law will result in immigration enforcement? Since it won't, it might be pointless.
32 posted on 02/23/2006 5:46:45 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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Ohio already has Drunk Plates, easily distinguished by this taxi-cab yellow and red color combo. My nieces and nephews love to play the "point and laugh" game when they see one of these.

40 posted on 02/23/2006 5:52:49 AM PST by Kenton
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I am for taking their car on the 2nd offense.

Same for drivers driving with revoked or suspended license.

2nd offense take the car.


42 posted on 02/23/2006 5:55:38 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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Chop their hands off after the second drunk driving conviction. Then the plates won't be needed.


48 posted on 02/23/2006 6:01:16 AM PST by D-Chivas
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New law: You must have a BAC of over .08 to get behind the wheel. That would allow a more level playing field...


55 posted on 02/23/2006 6:04:53 AM PST by dakine
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57 posted on 02/23/2006 6:07:40 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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"It's intended to track people who have had two or more offenses dealing with drunken driving," Taylor said.

This clearly demonstrates the stupidity of the current attempts to solve the DUI problem. People with two or more DUI's should not be an issue. They should be rotting in jail for 20 years. Problem solved!

61 posted on 02/23/2006 6:09:23 AM PST by CMAC51
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"Uh... it's a vanity plate. My name is Dewey."

"I thought your name was Hector."


77 posted on 02/23/2006 8:09:56 AM PST by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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If the bill doesn't make it illegal for a convict to drive any other car, then it is meaningless.

Simply establish a corporation, let the corporation buy and register the car, and drive it with normal plates. A nice sideline for DUI attorneys.

I hope these legislative morons have figured that one out.
81 posted on 02/23/2006 8:27:06 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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If they are handing out DUIs there for .02, I don't support this measure.


86 posted on 02/23/2006 9:30:56 AM PST by mysterio
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What happens in a household with a husband and wife that own a single car? One party is the convicted drunk, the other one is not. If the party who is not convicted is the current driver, that person's right to a requirement of probable cause has been infringed.

It is a stupid idea. Drunks will drive with or without a license. It is common to cite a driver for driving on a suspended or revoked license. A second offense should carry a minimum 1 year (felony) stay in prison and a lifetime prohibition from driving. If the individual is caught driving subsequent to this event, give them 10 years.

My attitude may seem harsh, but drunk drivers have killed more friends and acquaintances than I have fingers and toes to count.

94 posted on 02/23/2006 11:36:53 AM PST by Myrddin
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Living in Maryland, rather than seeing habitual DUIers given special plates I would prefer if they were not given plates at all.

The only acquaintance of mine who has received a DUI in this state was pulled over driving 75 in a 40 with a BAC of 0.12. He received a temporary license that night on discharge from the police station, and was eventually sentenced to alcohol classes, received various fines, and was put on a probationary license for a year. On completion of that year, the entire event was stricken from his record.

In other words, he wasn't off the roads for 12 hours.

Maryland does not take DUI seriously.


102 posted on 02/23/2006 12:18:21 PM PST by CGTRWK
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Ach! Der Polizei can schtopp me for no reason if I have dese pletz! Vat happent to der probable cause??? Vat happent to suschpendingk or revokingk der license, hmmmmm???

Herman Taylor: Future Reichsfuhrer of Maryland.

103 posted on 02/23/2006 12:22:40 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Now is the time for all good customes agents in Tiajunna to come to the aid of their stuned beebers!)
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