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U.S. Military Decides Turkey No Longer Reliable Ally
insightmag.com via Kurdistan Observer ^ | 2006 Jan 16

Posted on 02/22/2006 10:35:13 PM PST by Wiz

The U.S. military is quietly preparing to withdraw its forces from Turkey.

Government sources said the military and Defense Department have concluded that Turkey is no longer a reliable military ally. The sources said that by 2008 the United States would have no more than a token military presence in Turkey.

"For two years, the Pentagon waited for a turnaround in Turkey," a source said. "That hasn't happened and the Pentagon will be looking elsewhere for basing and deployment."

The Bush administration was deeply disappointed by Ankara's refusal to host U.S. troops in 2003 as part of plans to form a northern front against the Saddam Hussein regime in Iraq. Last year, despite numerous pledges, Ankara blocked another U.S. effort to expand its military presence and use of Turkish military installations.

As a result, the Pentagon has been changing its deployment in Turkey and ended incentives for U.S. soldiers to be based in that country, which is also a member of NATO. The Pentagon has also terminated Turkey's certification as an area in direct support of the U.S. military operation in Iraq.

On Dec. 31, the Pentagon ended most incentives for U.S. soldiers to be based in Turkey, an area deemed as high risk amid rising anti-American sentiment during the war in Iraq. The Pentagon ended the exemption of U.S. soldiers from federal taxes in an arrangement known as combat zone tax exclusion.

U.S. soldiers in Turkey began receiving this benefit in January 2003 in anticipation of the war in Iraq. But in a review in late 2005, U.S. European Command determined that Turkey no longer fulfilled combat zone requirements.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200301; 2005; incirlik; iraq; iraqwar; islamist; islamofascist; kurdistan; receptayyiperdogan; turkey
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To: isrul

I'm not so concerned about our allowing them to manage the ports.

I'm more concerned about their rolling over the borders and conquering the ports. The Ottomans did that several times, if I recall.


21 posted on 02/22/2006 11:06:14 PM PST by Old Sarge (In a Hole in the Ground, there Lived a Fobbit...)
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To: AntiGuv

And create a greater Kurdistan incorporating a 1/3 of Turkry and 1/4 of Iran. Sounds good to me.


22 posted on 02/22/2006 11:06:58 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (Islam Schmislam blahblahblah, enough already!)
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To: ER Doc
I spent some time there in the 70's. If the good lord was going to give the earth an enema the hose would be stuck in Turkey.
23 posted on 02/22/2006 11:07:15 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Wiz

First off this is freakin Insight magazine. There right up there with DEBKA sometimes on getting stuff right. The relationship with the Turks is worth salvaging. We have been great allies for years. Also they have a big history of Secularlism.


24 posted on 02/22/2006 11:16:53 PM PST by bayourant
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To: Wiz; LibertarianInExile

Good thing we didn't put the Turkish government in charge of our main ports when they were our bestest bestest bestest allies in the whole wide world.

Good thing indeed.


25 posted on 02/22/2006 11:19:56 PM PST by sully777 (WWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: Wiz

Consider the source on this (Kurdistan Observer). AFAIK the USAF considers Incirlik AFB as absolutely vital to its operations.


26 posted on 02/22/2006 11:21:46 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: paul51

>>U.S. Military Decides Turkey No Longer Reliable Ally<<

>>We knew that when they stiffed us in iraq. I wonder about their NATO status.<<

ALOT of NATO countries are not reliable allies, not just Turkey.


27 posted on 02/22/2006 11:26:01 PM PST by frankiep
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To: Wiz

BTTT


28 posted on 02/22/2006 11:31:46 PM PST by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: Wiz
"The U.S. military is quietly preparing to withdraw its forces from Turkey. Government sources said the military and Defense Department have concluded that Turkey is no longer a reliable military ally. The sources said that by 2008 the United States would have no more than a token military presence in Turkey."

Yeah, but we have replaced them with a real muslim ally, they are called the UAE, and they will be trusted with operating our sea ports. The WH crystal ball says they won't be like all those untrustworthy muslim allies, Saudi, Turkey and Pakistan. These UAE muslims can be trusted with our national security. (until we find out at some future date we shot ourselves in the foot again by trusting our enemies).

29 posted on 02/22/2006 11:47:35 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: Wiz

ping


30 posted on 02/22/2006 11:54:29 PM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: Wiz
Sense they no longer are reliable allies maybe we need to to do what we should have long ago in the first gulf war and tell the Kurds to help themselves to a chunk of Iraq.

Maybe we will learn one day that no Islamic country is our friend nor can they be trusted. After all if you are a Muslim it is perfectly permissible to lie to an infidel to achieve your goal.

I guess that's why our politicians admire them so. They both use the lie so well. They both think they know what is best for everyone else in the world and therefore they seek to dominate them.

Muslims seek one thing and one thing only. A world dominated and inhabited by Islamics only,period.

Any one that follows the teachings of Mohamed is a direct deadly threat to those who do not.

There are no peaceful Muslims. There are only those that will kill you today and those that will kill you tomorrow.

31 posted on 02/23/2006 12:18:58 AM PST by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: bayourant

and a history with fake democracy with corruption and Turkey's military in the dark of controlling the government. What was those years which criticizing the military as well as discussing Armenian genocide was a taboo, with possibilities being put on court for anti-patriotic law. I've done my homework.


32 posted on 02/23/2006 12:21:41 AM PST by Wiz (News hyaena providing you news with spice of acid)
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To: Old Sarge

Of course, as Turkey denied entrance of US force from Turkey during Iraq War, attempting to invade northern Iraq during the war, contacting Syria and Iran for improvement of relationship, and criticizing Israel regarding Hamas, as Hamas makes contact to officials of Turkey, and history of invading Middle East countries, Cyprus, Constantinople, Western Armenia, and Kurdistan, and a history of genocide of Armenians, our Christian brothers. We should also not forget about the Turka Cola CM, slaughter of Italian priest in Turkey, publication of Turkey allied with Russia fighting currently Governor of California as Pro-Nazi President of America allied with Europe, and the recent news of anti-US film about liberation of Iraq. If you still defend Turkey for all this, you might want to move to Democratic Underground.


33 posted on 02/23/2006 12:31:26 AM PST by Wiz (News hyaena providing you news with spice of acid)
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To: bayourant
First off this is freakin Insight magazine. There right up there with DEBKA sometimes on getting stuff right.
The news posted today from Insight magazine is just not my only source. Well, if you think it would be something made up, fine. It is better for some one defending Turkey not to believe.
34 posted on 02/23/2006 12:36:17 AM PST by Wiz (News hyaena providing you news with spice of acid)
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To: Wiz

Show me where I support the Turks in my statement, before you make moronic ignorant comments about me.


35 posted on 02/23/2006 12:36:22 AM PST by Old Sarge (In a Hole in the Ground, there Lived a Fobbit...)
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To: Wiz

Sorry to read it. The US had hopes for Turkey.


36 posted on 02/23/2006 3:36:26 AM PST by Alia
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To: Wiz

Yeah buddy, our military is right up on events.
Wasn't it turdkey that tried to shake the U.S.A. down for a little more lucre for letting us use their country for one of the staging areas to invade Iraq?
As a result of this shakedown refusal many American soldiers died needlessly.
Screw turdkey.
About time our military understands and takes action.


37 posted on 02/23/2006 4:06:06 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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38 posted on 02/23/2006 5:52:25 AM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: Wiz
IIRC Turkey's legislature voted "yes" on allowing our troops through but we only got the majority of those voting, not the majority of total seats needed for the measure to pass. That hardly puts them in the "stab you in the back" category like France & Belgium.

Turkey was always the token Muslim democracy in the Middle East. With events in Iraq and Afghanistan, they no longer hold that coveted spot. The bases in Turkey were vital to containing Saddam Hussein. Now a jail cell suffices. Turkey's not "all that" anymore.

39 posted on 02/23/2006 6:30:56 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: pbrown
Sure as hell took them long enough to figure that out, jeez.

No, they knew it years ago but where hoping for a turn around. Sort of like Texas always hopes Louisiana will clean up it's politics.

40 posted on 02/23/2006 6:35:31 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Justice and "The Law" are not always the same thing.)
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