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Holocaust Denier Gets Three Years in Jail
AP ^ | February 20, 2006 | VERONIKA OLEKSYN

Posted on 02/22/2006 7:43:04 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182

VIENNA, Austria -- Right-wing British historian David Irving was sentenced to three years in prison Monday after admitting to an Austrian court that he denied the Holocaust _ a crime in the country where Hitler was born.

Irving, who pleaded guilty and then insisted during his one-day trial that he now acknowledged the Nazis' World War II slaughter of 6 million Jews, had faced up to 10 years behind bars. Before the verdict, Irving conceded he had erred in contending there were no gas chambers at the Auschwitz concentration camp.

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But despite his apparent epiphany, Irving, 67, maintained he had never questioned the Holocaust.

"I've never been a Holocaust denier and I get very angry when I'm called a Holocaust denier," he said.

Irving's lawyer said he would appeal the sentence.

"I consider the verdict a little too stringent. I would say it's a bit of a message trial," attorney Elmar Kresbach said.

State prosecutor Michael Klackl declined to comment on the verdict. In his closing arguments, however, he criticized Irving for "putting on a show" and for not admitting that the Nazis killed Jews in an organized and systematic manner.[snip]

Irving, handcuffed and wearing a navy blue suit, arrived at the court carrying one of his most controversial books _ "Hitler's War," which challenges the extent of the Holocaust........."

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"He is everything but a historian ... He is a dangerous falsifier of history," Klackl said, calling Irving's statements an "abuse of freedom of speech."

Klackl said the Austrian law does not "hinder historical works."

"You have to look at each case individually," he said. "The point is, what is someone trying to do? It's the intent."...."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: davidirving; irving
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It was dumb to bring that book into court and I have to agree with the prosecution that his intent to falsify is clear, particularly in light of his libel cases losses previously.
1 posted on 02/22/2006 7:43:09 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Really doesn't matter what anyone says (and after a dozen threads on this stuff, it's all been said) the facts are the facts.

Why don't we see if "W" can retarget some of those otherwise unused nukes on Vienna ~ I'd hate to see the end of the world arrive and these guys escape feeling that it was their work in suppressing speech that saved them.

2 posted on 02/22/2006 7:45:42 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
While he is wrong, I think it's a violation of free speech and an over-reaction by the Austrian government. The editors of Powerline, two of who are Jewish said the same thing several days ago. Basically this guy is going to jail for being a jerk.
3 posted on 02/22/2006 7:47:53 PM PST by BW2221
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To: freepatriot32

Yet another ping.


4 posted on 02/22/2006 7:49:21 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: muawiyah
"Really doesn't matter what anyone says (and after a dozen threads on this stuff, it's all been said) the facts are the facts."

They sure are, not that facts ever made much difference to Irving where there were books to sell and self promotion to be done!

And all the so called "free speech" advocates taking the cause of a professional liar as if outright fraud rises to protected speech in another country.

5 posted on 02/22/2006 7:53:15 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Fraud?

Do you really think Austria has people who know nothing of the Holocaust and who might be misled by Irving?

6 posted on 02/22/2006 7:55:11 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
BTW, our concern with free speech is that it is a proven method for de-fanging people like Irving. If you don't allow free speech in your society, you just drive fascism and it's near relatives underground where they will fester, and then leap up and bite you in the *ss someday.

So, you have a choice, fascism or free speech. I prefer free speech. You prefer the alternative.

7 posted on 02/22/2006 7:58:57 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: everyone

So I'm guessing the President of Iran won't be visiting Austria any time soon..?


8 posted on 02/22/2006 7:59:19 PM PST by austinaero
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To: BW2221
"Basically this guy is going to jail for being a jerk."

No he is going to jail for being stupid enough to go back to Austria.

9 posted on 02/22/2006 8:03:10 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: austinaero

It is Germany where he has a potential problem, but as a politcal big shot they would not do anything to him.


10 posted on 02/22/2006 8:04:29 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Interesting, this type of thing would happen to people for saying what they think, right or wrong....

...IN NAZI GERMANY!!!!


11 posted on 02/22/2006 8:12:00 PM PST by observer5 ("Better violate the rights of a few, than of all!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Right, that's Spain where the local magistrate down in traffic court can arrest heads of state and former heads of state.

Broadcast TV is all local in Italy too, just like international law in Spain, but at least you get a lot of gameshows and dancing girls with it.

12 posted on 02/22/2006 8:12:15 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

How many duplicate threads are we going to have on this article?


13 posted on 02/22/2006 8:13:08 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

I searched again, no match.


14 posted on 02/22/2006 8:15:30 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;s=holocaust


15 posted on 02/22/2006 8:27:28 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

I was talking about the title, not keyword.


16 posted on 02/22/2006 8:36:33 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

There's nothing unique about this article that couldn't have been put in a existing thread. It's better for discussion to have one thread with five hundred posts than a hundred with five posts each.


17 posted on 02/22/2006 8:58:21 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

Life is hard.


18 posted on 02/22/2006 9:00:11 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

So is posting a dead thread.


19 posted on 02/22/2006 9:06:00 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Its interesting that we don't here much about the 44 million non-Jews who died in WW2.


20 posted on 02/22/2006 9:18:23 PM PST by DeaconNoGood
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