Saudi cleric demands trial over drawings (Imam of Grand Mosque of Mecca)

AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/11/06 | Abdullah Shiri - apI

[NormsRevenge]

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Saudi Arabia's top cleric called on the world's Muslims to reject apologies for the "slanderous" caricatures of Islam's Prophet Mohammed and demanded the authors and publishers of the cartoons be tried and punished, Saudi newspapers reported Saturday.

Thousands of Muslims, meanwhile, took to the streets in London and several other European cities to protest the drawings that were first published in a Danish newspaper in September and recently reprinted in other European publications. One depicted the prophet with a turban shaped like a bomb with a burning fuse.

Denmark also announced it has temporarily withdrawn its ambassadors from Syria, Iran and Indonesia because their safety was at risk in the wake of the controversy.

Speaking to hundreds of faithful at his Friday sermon, Sheik Abdul Rahman al-Seedes, the imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, called on the international community to enact laws that condemn insults against the prophet and holy sites.

"Where is the world with all its agencies and organizations? Is there only freedom of expression when it involves insults to Muslims? With one voice...we will reject the apology and demand a trial," Al Riyad, a Saudi daily newspaper, quoted al-Seedes as saying.

Al-Seedes said the cartoons "made a mockery" of the Islam and the Prophet and called them "slanderous."

A diverse crowd ranging from teenagers in jeans and T-shirts to women in head scarves gathered in Trafalgar Square in central London. Many carried placards reading "United Against Islamophobia."

"It was absolutely wrong to publish the cartoons," said Ihtisham Hibatullah, media director for the Muslim Association of Britain, one of the protest organizers.

But he said demonstrators also wanted to send the message that "the clash of civilizations is only promoted by fringe minorities. We see the future as one of dialogue between practices, cultures, faiths and ideologies."

Islam is interpreted to forbid any illustrations of Muhammad for fear they could lead to idolatry. No major British newspaper has reproduced the caricatures, and the country had seen only small demonstrations before Saturday.

Noisy but peaceful rallies also were held in Turkey, Indonesia, the Netherlands, Germany, France and elsewhere, although the Middle East was largely calm, a day after demonstrations by thousands of Muslim worshippers emerging from Friday prayers.

Protesters in the Turkish capital of Ankara stomped on Danish flags and shouted, "We will not forgive the ones who humiliated our prophet!"

Arab governments, Muslim clerics and newspaper columnists have been urging calm in past days, fearing that recent weeks of violence have only increased anti-Islamic sentiment in the West.

So far, eleven people have been killed in the protests — all during three days of riots this week in Afghanistan. A 12th person died in Nairobi Friday when he was hit by an ambulance rushing away a wounded person.

Denmark's embassy buildings in Syria, Iran and Indonesia had been targeted by angry mobs and the Foreign Ministry said it was withdrawing Danish ambassadors from all three countries.

The Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten, which published the cartoons in September, has apologized for offending Muslims but stood by its decision to print the drawings, citing freedom of speech.

The newspaper's culture editor, Flemming Rose, who was in charge of the drawings, went on indefinite leave Thursday but many Muslims said that would do little to quell the uproar.

The paper has denied that Rose was ordered to go leave because he suggested reprinting Holocaust drawings solicited by an Iranian newspaper, setting off a dispute earlier this week with Jyllands-Posten's editor-in-chief.

"He was not forced out," said the paper's spokesman, Tage Clausen. "He's on vacation, that's all."

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned the controversy over the cartoons has created unprecedented tension between the Islamic and Christian world.

"For the sake of global peace and safeguarding of our commonly held values, I believe it has now become essential that the statesmen and politicians act with wisdom and commonsense," he said in a letter published in Turkish media and sent to U.N. member nations, the Organization of the Islamic Conference and NATO.

Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono reiterated that many Muslims consider the cartoons an insult to their faith, but he called on Muslims to forgive those who have sincerely apologized.

"Reprinting the cartoons in order to make a point about free speech is an act of senseless brinkmanship," he said in a commentary in the International Herald Tribune.

"It is also a disservice to democracy. It sends a conflicting message to the Muslim community: that in a democracy it is permissible to offend Islam. This message damages efforts to prove that democracy and Islam go together."

[muawiyah]

Now to me it would make much more sense to simply lock ol' Sheik Abdul Rahman al-Seedes up in a dungeon somewhere for a long time.

Guy's a nut case.

[Sabramerican]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1576513/posts?page=6#6

[No Truce With Kings]

Actually, this might not be a bad idea. Three of the cartoons in the collection, pig-snout Mohammed, child-moslester Mohammed and devil Mohammed were created by the Danish imam who is stirring up the problem, not by the non-believing artists that contributed the twelve drawing to the Danish newspaper.

Now this guy *is* muslim. He also wants muslim law respected. So I think is would be a first-rate idea to take this imam down to Mecca, have him tried for blasphemy and disposed of in whatever they feel is appropriate.

As for the Danish cartoonists? They ain't muslim. We can talk about them once the muslims clean up their own house and not before.

[gondramB]

"Actually, this might not be a bad idea. Three of the cartoons in the collection, pig-snout Mohammed, child-moslester Mohammed and devil Mohammed were created by the Danish imam who is stirring up the problem, not by the non-believing artists that contributed the twelve drawing to the Danish newspaper."

I have not read that the imam created them... are you sure about that?

[river rat]

Sheetheads will be sheetheads...

The one sided perspective these clowns live in --- is breath taking..
Which is exactly what the bastards have in mind....

Never in the history of the world, will a war have been more necessary or justified........than that against these militant Islamist Lunatics.

Semper Fi

[Gritty]

"(Flemming Rose) was not forced out," said the paper's spokesman, Tage Clausen. "He's on vacation in hiding, that's all."

There. Fixed it.

[magslinger]

A diverse crowd ranging from teenagers in jeans and T-shirts to women in head scarves gathered in Trafalgar Square in central London. Many carried placards reading "United Against Islamophobia."

Islamophobia? I fear nothing save God, and his name ain't Allah.

I despise the horrors committed by Muslims. I worry about friends and family being targeted by Islamofascists. I abhor the treatment of my co-religionists and those of other religions by Mohammad's cult. For me, fear isn't in it, I'll die on my feet before I'll submit to Islam.

If you want Islamophobia, go look in newsrooms of some newspapers or governmental offices of most European nations, not here!

[Camel Joe]

I think they should just dismantle it and send it to the other side of the new fence thats going up. I don't think the Jews want the mosque, just the Temple it was built over as an insult to Judaism.

[Camel Joe]

Quite sure, the pig snout is from a french pig calling contest.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Saudi Arabia's top cleric....the Head Wahabi Immam?

[gondramB]

"Quite sure, the pig snout is from a french pig calling contest."
Right. But I have not seen it documented that this dutch Imam created the fake version - that's what I wAs asking about.

[FredZarguna]

The culture chasm is a lot BIGGER than we ever imagined

Imagination has nothing to do with it. People who know either the current scope of Mohammedan violence against other religions and secular systems, or the history of Mohammedanism are far from surprised by its barbarism. What is surprising is that the West seems to show so little will to resist.

[dirtboy]

Funny how he's ignoring the fake cartoons that incited the violence.

Yeah, a trial would end up with perjury charges against those who presented the false cartoons. But, then again, truth does not matter to either Islam or the left.

[FredZarguna]

Here is a good place to get started.

[Cindy]

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[conservativecorner]

Another religion of peace sack of shite'!

[Serious Capitalist]

It's funny that islam treats Christianity and Judism with such contempt- of course the koran has been insulting Christianty for 1,300 years or so by claiming the Jesus faked his death. It seems to me that islam preaches hate and Jesus teaches love- could allah be the devil???

[gondramB]

Thanks for that link - I had missed that whether he really recieved them in the mail was being questioned.

[A CA Guy]

I agree that they should put all the violent radicals and protesters on trial who acted like idiots in regards to these cartoons.