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The Betty I knew
The Guardian ^ | February 7, 2006 | Germaine Greer

Posted on 02/09/2006 12:55:25 PM PST by tbird5

Betty Friedan, who died this weekend aged 85, was widely considered to be the founder of modern feminism. Was she really as pivotal as she thought she was, asks Germaine Greer

Betty Friedan "changed the course of human history almost single-handedly". Her ex-husband, Carl Friedan, believes this; Betty believed it too. This belief was the key to a good deal of Betty's behaviour; she would become breathless with outrage if she didn't get the deference she thought she deserved. Though her behaviour was often tiresome, I figured that she had a point. Women don't get the respect they deserve unless they are wielding male-shaped power; if they represent women they will be called "love" and expected to clear up after themselves. Betty wanted to change that for ever. She wanted women to be a force to be reckoned with, and yet she let Carl Friedan have all the income from The Feminine Mystique. Or so she told me, sotto voce, in 1971. Something to do with community property, I guess. She was not yet divorced from him then.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: deadlesbiansociety; feminist; friedan; germainegreer; oldhags
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1 posted on 02/09/2006 12:55:26 PM PST by tbird5
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barf


2 posted on 02/09/2006 12:57:09 PM PST by conservatrice
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To: tbird5

"wielding male-shaped power.."
She tore off her husband's.....


3 posted on 02/09/2006 12:57:47 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: tbird5

Changed the course of human history ping!!

Too much! ROFLMAO!


4 posted on 02/09/2006 12:58:35 PM PST by TeddyCon
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To: tbird5
Sounds like the ultimate C word.
5 posted on 02/09/2006 12:59:19 PM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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6 posted on 02/09/2006 1:01:29 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden

7 posted on 02/09/2006 1:03:29 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Rastus
Nice betty's

The one in the post was a card carrying Communist.

8 posted on 02/09/2006 1:05:01 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: Rastus

Betty was disconcerted by lesbianism, leery of abortion and ultimately concerned for the men whose ancient privileges she feared were being eroded.

Really?


9 posted on 02/09/2006 1:06:28 PM PST by tbird5
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To: tbird5

Which of the three would you rather put your "loose lips" on?

Make your choice quickly, it's coming upon dinner time.

10 posted on 02/09/2006 1:08:01 PM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: tbird5

Women had far more power in society before the feminist movement.

As wives they were cherished and supported by their husbands who worked to supply the income they spent.

Women formed the backbone of civilization and society. They set the standards.

Men sacrificed their lives for their wives and mothers.

The feminist movement was about women who did not want to be wives or mothers, or feared they would not be able to attract and keep a man to do their bidding.


11 posted on 02/09/2006 1:08:55 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: llevrok

Bettie Page was a communist?


12 posted on 02/09/2006 1:09:00 PM PST by Rastus
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13 posted on 02/09/2006 1:11:02 PM PST by TeddyCon
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To: Rastus
I wish I could have communed with Miss Page in her hay day, but it was Betty Freedan what was a commie and did not deny it.
14 posted on 02/09/2006 1:11:09 PM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: tbird5
Here is a little post my sister found on a cooking web site:

"I also spent considerable time talking to my brother regarding our Betty Friedan memories. Betty Friedan was a close friend of my parents, a neighbor, and a fixture in our young childhood.

My immediate thought on reading of Betty's death was that she NEVER thanked the legions of friends, all STRONG,INTELLIGENT WOMEN who supported her, in so many ways, while she wrote the Feminine Mystique up in the garret of her Victorian home. It was my mother, an incredibly strong and intelligent woman, who washed ALL the dishes in the kitchen when she dropped Betty's daughter off after picking her up from school. It was my Mom who washed all the dirty linens and cooked the meals when we went to visit the Friedans on Fire Island for a weekend. It was my Mom who soothed/smoothed over many of the sometimes VIOLENT, sometimes drunken fights (I was witness to one or two as a child) between Betty and her husband.

As a result, regretably, I admit that I have NOT read the Feminine Mystique, though now may be the time. Truth is, I never had the need . . . I grew up in a network of strong intelligent women . . . who were loving and caring and determined. Yes, they were housewives, but they were politically active, volunteered for schools, and charities, etc. I don't believe they wer unfulfilled . . . they were "do-ers". There were the ones that got things done.

Funny . . . I never considered Betty a role model, though she did incredible things for women.

Okay, sorry. I just had to say these things somewhere."

15 posted on 02/09/2006 1:11:09 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Hank Rearden

16 posted on 02/09/2006 1:15:37 PM PST by TheBigB ("Uh, excuse me, would you like to taste my smoked meat log?"~~Brian Griffin)
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To: Rastus

Betty Page is MUCH more like it!


17 posted on 02/09/2006 1:24:03 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: TheBigB

Somebody comissioned her to write that book. I figure it was someone from the labor department who wanted to grow the economy. I have always said that women's lib was a man's idea.


18 posted on 02/09/2006 1:24:45 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Hank Rearden

Now we're talking capital P - Power


19 posted on 02/09/2006 1:25:43 PM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: tbird5


I still say, GOOD RIDDANCE.


20 posted on 02/09/2006 1:31:31 PM PST by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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