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Outbreak of racist taunts plaguing Italian football (Nazis are back...)
Financial Times ^ | 4 February 2006 | Tony Barber

Posted on 02/04/2006 10:07:37 PM PST by July 4th

Italy's government and football authorities are on high alert at stadiums this weekend to combat a plague of racism and hooliganism contaminating the nation's favourite sport.

At a game last Sunday between Roma and Livorno - two clubs in Serie A, Italy's top league - crowds held aloft anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi banners insulting fans of Livorno and Lazio, Roma's rival club in the Italian capital.

One slogan read: "Lazio-Livorno, stessa iniziale, stesso forno" - "Lazio and Livorno, same initial, same oven". Another slogan, in German, read: "Gott mit uns" - "God with us", the inscription on the belt buckles of Nazi soldiers in the second world war.

The Italian football federation's disciplinary committee has ordered Roma to play their next home match at a neutral venue and behind closed doors, but some government ministers complained the punishment was too mild for the crime.

"The entire football world is going through a crisis, because the only thing that counts today is that the show goes on," said Gianfranco Fini, foreign minister. "The talk is all about 'zero tolerance' and then every Sunday these situations come up."

Giuseppe Pisanu, interior minister, blamed the incidents on rightwing extremists who infiltrated Roma's stadium, rather than the club's real fans. He said there was enough evidence to imprison the perpetrators for terms of three months to one year.

He also proposed that Italian football games be automatically suspended if symbols or slogans were on display that incited political violence, racism or xenophobia. Under existing laws, the police can stop football matches in mid-game but are not obliged to do so, meaning they have considerable discretion in assessing how dangerous or offensive an incident is.

Last Sunday's trouble was only the latest involving big Italian clubs. Last season Roma had to play two games in the Champions League, Europe's most prestigious club competition, behind closed doors after the referee in a Roma-Dynamo Kiev match suffered a head wound from a coin thrown from the stands. Lazio and Inter, a renowned Milan club, were also punished because of fans' behaviour.

The government has tried to crack down on hooliganism by increasing video surveillance inside stadiums.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: italy; nazi
Between these guys and the Muslims, looks like Europe has their hands full.


1 posted on 02/04/2006 10:07:40 PM PST by July 4th
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To: July 4th

Popcorn Time


2 posted on 02/04/2006 10:13:09 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: July 4th

Ungh, Nazis. Not these a--holes again.


3 posted on 02/04/2006 10:14:26 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: The Cuban
Yeah, that's what I'm thinkin' too.


4 posted on 02/04/2006 10:17:07 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: July 4th

Just watch...the EU media will likely bitch and moan about this more than they will about the psycho burning down their embassys


5 posted on 02/04/2006 10:23:20 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: July 4th
Maybe they and the muzzies can have at each other and kill each other off. I'm not so sure about those slogans, though. You would have to have a muzzie mentality to get too bent out of shape about them. same initials same ovens? Do we really know what it means or have we just been conditioned to react a certain way when we see the word racist? In Italy? ovens? could have something to do with food, for all we know. To associate Gott mit uns specifically with Nazis is also seems like someone trying to make a specific connection that isn't there. That slogan also was on ww1 belt buckles and it's certainly not racist in its meaning.

I'm not trying to defend these guys. They're probably dirt bags.(if they took on some muzzies, I would consider them tolerable dirt bags). It's just when I read stuff allegedly about racism, I want o see something substantial. If this is the best the author can come up with to make the case, I'm not convinced.

6 posted on 02/04/2006 10:23:57 PM PST by isrul
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To: July 4th

that-sa spicy foot-balla!


7 posted on 02/04/2006 10:24:29 PM PST by isom35
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To: July 4th

What's left unsaid is that the return of Nazism is at least in part due to the recent "muslim troubles" in France and elsewhere. Arabs will do just as nicely as Jews for a scapegoat- most Nazis probably can't tell the difference.
I am not above using the rising tide of neo-Nazism in Europe and Russia as a weapon, and pointing that weapon straight at the heart of militant Islam.
We just let the Nazis and the Jihadists fight a war of mutual extermination, then fall heavily upon the winner.


8 posted on 02/04/2006 10:24:39 PM PST by Ostlandr ( Hey! Where'd my tagline go?)
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To: July 4th

It could be worse. They could be Illinois Nazis


9 posted on 02/04/2006 10:25:15 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Despite Popular Opinion, Tom Tancredo Does Not Support Deporting Illegal Aliens.)
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To: COEXERJ145

I hate Illinois Nazis.


10 posted on 02/04/2006 10:29:19 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: July 4th

LOL! I was waiting for someone to say that.


11 posted on 02/04/2006 10:30:39 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Despite Popular Opinion, Tom Tancredo Does Not Support Deporting Illegal Aliens.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Golly and I thought it was just me that thought that.


12 posted on 02/04/2006 10:34:35 PM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Didn't we kill all these fools like six decades ago?


13 posted on 02/04/2006 11:15:44 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: vik

and dont forget lazio/livorno is northern italy which has alot of germanic blood in it. having said that, i do believe nazis new rise is due to europe being so anti white race. i know some euros who have emigrated and thats what they say and i have no reason to doubt them. they tell me that muslims and africans are treated like gold citizens, while native born are treated like dirt.


15 posted on 02/05/2006 1:02:56 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: isom35

mama mia!...kicka that nazi in the a-hole!...


16 posted on 02/05/2006 1:20:20 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: July 4th
crowds held aloft anti-Semitic and neo-Nazi banners insulting fans of Livorno and Lazio, Roma's rival club in the Italian capital.

God forbid they hold aloft anti-Muslim banners

17 posted on 02/05/2006 7:10:55 AM PST by montag813
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To: Gordongekko909

These twits and their ilk are like bad pennies.


18 posted on 02/05/2006 7:38:18 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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