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How Gonzales Plans to Defend Eavesdropping
Time Online ^ | FEB 4, 2006 | MIKE ALLEN/WASHINGTON

Posted on 02/04/2006 6:32:03 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales plans to use a Congressional hearing on Monday to lash out at "misinformed, confused" news accounts about President George W. Bush's warrantless eavesdropping program, and to declare it "is not a dragnet," according to administration documents provided to TIME. "I cannot and will not address operational aspects of the program or other purported activities described in press reports," he plans to say in testimony prepared for the Senate Judiciary Committee. "These press accounts are in almost every case, in one way or another, misinformed, confused, or wrong."

According to the documents, Gonzales plans to assert in his opening statement that seeking approval for the wiretaps from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court could result in delays that "may make the difference between success and failure in preventing the next attack." He will compare the program to telegraph wiretapping during the Civil War. In accompanying testimony, the Attorney General plans to leave open the possibility that President Bush will ask the court to give blanket approval to the program, a step that some lawmakers and even some Administration officials contend would put it on more solid legal footing.

In pointed written questions posed in advance by Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), Gonzales was asked whether he would "consider seeking approval from the FISA Court at this time for the ongoing surveillance program at issue." According to 11 pages of answers to the 15 questions, Gonzales will reply, "We use FISA where we can, and we always consider all of our legal options."

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: doj; gonzales; homelandsecurity; nsa; spying

1 posted on 02/04/2006 6:32:04 PM PST by blogblogginaway
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To: blogblogginaway

does it make sense to even consider asking FISA to OK this at this time? what happens if they say no?


2 posted on 02/04/2006 6:36:47 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
"These press accounts are in almost every case, in one way or another, misinformed, confused, or wrong."

Is that a good strategy? I mean, to accuse the MSM of being something that we all already knew about them: . "misinformed, confused, or wrong."?
3 posted on 02/04/2006 6:42:48 PM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

well certainly, these constant claims of "domestic spying" are just spin to make the sheeple believe that their phone calls to their friends are being tapped.

but Gonzales has to be careful here to - careful not to make the story coming out of this "Administration agrees to revisit FISA warrants for domestic spying case". that will be spun by the MSM as a de-facto admission that they should have used FISA from the beginning, and will simply fuel the idea of these being "warrantless wiretaps".

the administration has good approval numbers on this topic now, they have to be careful not to blow that.


4 posted on 02/04/2006 6:47:32 PM PST by oceanview
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To: blogblogginaway
The media never reported this stuff in it's true context, that it was a war-time action taken against our declared enemies. Whether or not those surveiled were American citizens shouldn't even matter if they were communicating directly to al Quaeda or other known islamic terrorists whom we are at war with. The Leftists would like everyone to overlook that little war factor and have us believe that these people may have been having benign conversations with terrorists about how to bake chocolate pies.

It's just another red herring thrown out there by the Left in keeping with their twisted tradition of attacking Pres Bush with bogus accusations. They probably never believed that this would stick, but it's the smear factor they're interested in. Every day the media make themselves more and more irellevent to the American people.

5 posted on 02/04/2006 6:47:48 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: TheCrusader

Do you mean to tell me that Bush wants to listen to the phone calls of those that want to kill us? Who does he think he is, commander-in-chief?


6 posted on 02/04/2006 6:51:16 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: bybybill

This is a great discussion to be had ... let the looney left oppose this...


7 posted on 02/04/2006 8:15:07 PM PST by cheee (If Heaven doesn't exist, I'll never know. But if it does, unbelievers will find Hell.)
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To: oceanview
does it make sense to even consider asking FISA to OK this at this time? what happens if they say no?

The President is on record as doing what needs to be done.

Do you think he would respect a "no" answer, when he believe he is asking out of courtesy, not out of need for permission?

8 posted on 02/04/2006 8:20:10 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

OK, then why even float the idea of going back to FISA?

we need to stay on offense on this issue, we have done well so far. Spector is off the reservation on this issue, we need some other voices on that committee to be on offense.


9 posted on 02/04/2006 8:23:06 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
OK, then why even float the idea of going back to FISA?

FISA warrants are still used. The annual rate is at 1700+, up from 1200+ a few years ago. And the President has said that FISA is useful for long term surveillance.

we need to stay on offense on this issue ...

We need to think about how much overlap (in the government's eyes) of the population of "innocent" and "terrorist" is acceptable. We are safest if the government treats ALL of us as terrorists.

Spector is off the reservation on this issue, we need some other voices on that committee to be on offense.

There are voices on both sides. I suspect that Specter's will come off as rational compared with Leahy.

I see the eventual outcome of the hearings as 1) public agreement with the President's initiative and 2) Congress seeing eye-to-eye with the President. There will be a shift toward "administrative wiretap authority" and the process for advance judicial approval will be relaxed.

10 posted on 02/04/2006 8:36:34 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: oceanview

Well there's this little problem...

The FISA court has taken it upon itself to issue an edict that they will no longer admit information in a probable cause determination (to obtain a FISA warrant) that was gathered through warrantless intercepts. Never mind that they have no authority to issue such an edict, outside of a case holding.

I say a "little" problem, because most of the President's warrantless NSA intercepts will either remain entirely intelligence matters outside of FISA channels, or over time, they will be turned into criminal matters, for which a warrant will then be sought through the regular court process, again bypassing the FISA courts.

But for a small number of these cases, there may come a point in the intelligence gathering process, for a particular case, where the President may find it more advantageous to now obtain a FISA "warrant" (technically, they aren't called warrants under FISA, they are called "orders").

So because the FISA court has been throwing their hissy fit over the warrantless intercepts, that could throw a road block in the President's plans. That "little" problem needs to be resolved, but I don't think you'll find the President appearing, hat in hand, pleading for a reconsideration of their errant policy. It will be a bit more strident than that.

Wordy, but hopefully informative.

11 posted on 02/05/2006 2:02:11 AM PST by Boot Hill ("...and Joshua went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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To: blogblogginaway
The Washington Compost is trying one last shot at proof this is an "illegal" program. This morning 3 WP reporters claim a "knowledgeable" source says there have been 5000 citizens spied on with all ending in dead ends. If the MSM is so convinced they have such a vast knowledge of this program and it being illegal, why don't they give us the names, agency and departments of the "knowledgeable" sources? Nothing to fear because their sources would just be whistle-blowers and not criminals. If these sources were so credible why a number like 5000? Anyone with real knowledge and a basic knowledge of computers can be a bit more precise, like 4872.
12 posted on 02/05/2006 6:00:46 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: blogblogginaway
Even if the Committee decides to use its power and create a new law, it still has to go before two bodies: The public and the President. These jacka@@ are so stupid. It makes one wonder how they were ever elected and no wonder the Country is is such a mess.
13 posted on 02/05/2006 10:02:28 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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