Posted on 02/04/2006 12:59:01 PM PST by joan
At this point in time it hardly matters whether or not Osama was a known terrorist THEN, he certainly made his mark afterward and I doubt his intentions changed much between 1994 and 2001.
Bin Laden was very much involved with Somalia (e.g. "Blackhawk Down") in 1993.
In 1994 Bin Laden was in Bosnia. In 1999 he was probably in Kosovo. Certainly many, many Iranian mujaheeden were there by then.
And if you've been here before, what the hell were you thinking when you waded back in?
= )
All I need to know about ANY muslim, I learned on 9/11.
Too bad so many on this forum still support weasel muslims.
Proof please,
as I remember the events (as reported) there was little or no Serb air presence during the NATO invasion - and bomb runs of any sort would have been real low on their priority list while a half dozen foreign air forces prowled their air space.
Man, you are going against yourself.
1. You say that NATO won and that NATO airforce was superior
than You denie that by saying "NATO planes didn`t killed civillians, but Serb aircrafts did".
What Serb aircrafts? Worlds largest millitary alliance is at war with 1,000 planes up in the air, and you claim that Serb jets flew and attacked targets?
2. you say that NATO was success, and talking about "Delivering of bombs", but denying tha fact that Serb forces withdrew from Kosovo, after 78 days of NATO "Success" in order with entire techniqe, only after ordered to withdraw. Did NATO found any destroyed tanks? Howmany, 20? 30? Best war capture was M-4 Sherman, near Slatina airport, i belive.
3. After 78 days of war, NATO spokesman Jamie Shea said that "Sqadron of Yugoslav MiGs left Pristina airport.
That was success? It is like fighting Lihtenstein ofr 78 days, claiming victory.
I thank God that US troops in Iraq are not blab-mouth like you, but real-fighting man like they supost to be!
"Delivering payload"
No such thing in real war.
In fact, rumor has it that clark's son even comes in in support of bosnains and ALL muslims.
You do realise that your ar giving approximate mininum deployment heights? Cluster munitions are fuzed to allow the payload to be released at predetermined heights. For example the MiG-29 taken out at Nis in May 1999 was taken out from 10,000ft by an aicraft deploying a cluster munition. The cluster munition disperses at a pre-determined height near to the target not at 10,000ft.
Strafing runs with A-10 can be up at 4,000ft and still 80% of the shells will come within 20ft of their target.
The A-10 that left its starboard engine nacelle in Kosovo on 2nd May 1999 was hit by a SAM and not AAA.
Hoppy, my man, where are up until now?
I got worried that someone is accusing Muslims, and you ar not here to defend them.
http://www.balkanpeace.org/lan/ICTY3B.HTM
An Associated Press report of 7 May gave the following account:
"An Associated Press reporter, taken to the scene by Serbian authorities, saw destruction to an entire street near Nis University. One house was completely burned. Dozens of others had their windows blown out and their walls were pierced by what appeared to be fragments of cluster bombs. Several cars were destroyed.
A bit farther, in the Anete Andrejevic street near a market place, three bodies were lying in pools of blood. One was that of an old woman surrounded by pieces of carrots. The other two were men, one dismembered. Unexploded yellow bomblets were scattered over the pavement."
('Milosevic Opens Door to Peace Deal' by George Jahn, The Associated Press, 7 May).
That was that "pinpoint cluster attack"
game, Set, Mach.
That war isn't over, yet.
If that's your level of understanding, then you're hardly worth responding to, are you?
But enough of me - you were talking to USNBandit. Please don't let me distract you.
http://www.serbia-info.com/news/1999-07/23/13478.html
Cluster bombing of airport cused massive destruction of civillian targets.
Prooving that above 4,000 ft., yoy miss Iowa.
I hope we will win it.
Both of us, for good of mankind.
:)
Low flying targets, Both helos and recon aircraft and light strike aircraft were detected. The rules of engagement did not allow for fighters to come off CAP and go down in the weeds looking for these targets to positively ID them.
Even General Michael C. Short, admits that they lowered it down to 5,000 ft. But I suspect, they did fly even lower, but that is all he will admit to:
It came back from the squadron that we needed to let the forward air controllers go down to 5,000 feet, and to let the strikers go down as low as 8,000 feet in a diving delivery, to ensure that they verify their target and then right back up again to 15,000 feet. We acknowledged that that increases the risks significantly, but none of us want to hit a tractor full of refugees again. We can't stand that.
So from that point on, the rules were: "Try to operate at 15,000 feet, but if you're a forward air controller, like my son is, in the daytime with your binoculars and you see something on the ground and you can't identify it from 15,000 feet, then you're clear down as low as 5,000 feet to make that identification." . . .
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kosovo/interviews/short.html
(Joan`s post)
Joan, what are you babbling about? The Chinese embassy was hit by JDAMs (Joint Direct Attack Munitions) from a B-2A Spirit. You won't have seen any footage as the weapon is GPS guided. You realise that the operating height for a B-2 is up near airliner cruising height? The whole point of stealth is to be up out of the way using guided munitions. I find it laughable that you think the B-2 was down a few hundred feet over Belgrade?
Now your temper is slipping. Absent of facts you resort to poorly written personal attacks.
By the way from what I remember Serbia looks very pretty from the air.
Didn't see much of your air force, though. The F-15s got there first.
http://www.ansphoto.hu/stealth1.jpg
Pretty country, jolly people...
Good night,
but don`t worry, I do like America but also I like my country. And Im not one of those that will trash America cause what Clinton did to my country.
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