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Gov. Tim Kaine and the Democrats’ security dilemma
The Hill ^ | 2/1/2006 | Byron York

Posted on 02/01/2006 3:51:23 PM PST by wjersey

Some critics have suggested that Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine did not exactly wow ’em in his role as presenter of the Democratic response to the president’s State of the Union address.

It’s true, he didn’t. But the real problem wasn’t Kaine. It was the Democratic response.

And — as usual — the problem with the Democratic response was national security.

Kaine started out promisingly enough, citing the president’s commitment to win the war on terrorism and support the troops.

“Every American embraces those goals,” Kaine said. “We can — we must — defeat those who attack and kill innocent people.”

Then Kaine did something a bit unusual. Unlike others in his party who sometimes can’t bring themselves to discuss the unhappy events of Sept. 11, 2001 — and become angry when the president brings them up — Kaine actually mentioned the terrorist attacks in New York and the Washington area.

“While the images of the World Trade Center are seared in the minds of all Americans,” Kaine said, “so too are the memories of those who died on sacred ground here in Virginia in the attack on the Pentagon.”

So far, so good. But then Kaine started to lose steam. “Our commitment to winning the war on terror compels us to ask this question,” he said. “Are the president’s policies the best way to win this war?”

Apparently not, according to Kaine’s bill of particulars. Bush included “inaccurate information” in his case for war in Iraq. Some of the troops were not given the best body armor or the best intelligence. The administration wants to downsize the Army Reserve and reduce military and veterans’ benefits.

All bad things, Kaine said. But fortunately, he assured us, there is a better way.

And what is that better way?

Well, we should all be “working together” to “give our troops the tools they need to win the war on terror.”

And how do we do that? Why, we do what Kaine has done in Virginia. “We ... have reformed an enhanced our Department of Veterans Services to help our veterans and their family members access the federal benefits that they’ve earned,” Kaine said. “And we’re working to provide state re-enlistment bonuses to honor those Virginians who stay in service to commonwealth and country.”

And that was it.

Now, giving the troops what they need, helping veterans and their families with benefits and promoting re-enlistment are all worthy enterprises. The federal government should be doing all of them — in times of war or peace.

But since there is a war going on in Iraq, and a broader war going on against worldwide terrorism, what, specifically, would Kaine and his fellow Democrats do actually to win? To, you know, kill the bad guys?

The answer is — well, Kaine didn’t say.

Democrats often wonder why they are viewed — unfairly, they believe — as being soft on national security. Kaine’s speech Tuesday night would be a good place to start looking for an answer.

Of course Democrats like Kaine and the party’s leadership on Capitol Hill do what they do for a reason. First, they have real differences with Republicans over how to pursue the fight against terrorism. But they also represent a constituency that is simply not as concerned about the threat of terrorism as Republicans are.

In a recent poll, the Los Angeles Times asked respondents which issue Congress and the president should make their top priority in the coming year. Should it be Iraq? Healthcare? The deficit? Fighting terrorism? Something else?

Thirty-two percent of Republicans answered “fighting terrorism.” It was the No. 1 concern among GOP voters. Just 9 percent of Democrats named “fighting terrorism” as their top priority. It was the No. 5 concern among Democratic voters.

The Times poll results are in line with similar surveys taken over the years. And they point to a profound difference between the parties.

Last month, some Democrats were outraged when Karl Rove, the president’s top political adviser, said in a speech to the Republican National Committee, “At the core, we are dealing with two parties that have fundamentally different views of the world and fundamentally different views on national security. Republicans have a post-9/11 view of the world, and Democrats have a pre-9/11 view of the world. That doesn’t make them unpatriotic, not at all, but it does make them wrong — wrong deeply and profoundly and consistently.”

Not fair, some Democrats said. But what other conclusion can one reach from the Los Angeles Times poll and others that have found similar answers?

After recent statements from Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, what does it say when one party ranks terrorism as only the fifth highest concern facing Americans?

It says that party has a pre-Sept. 11 view of the world.

And Tim Kaine’s is only the most recent statement of it.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: byronyork; demresponse; homelandinsecurity; kaine; virginia
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1 posted on 02/01/2006 3:51:24 PM PST by wjersey
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To: wjersey

I couldn't pay attention what he was saying, his kooky initial-word-of-the-sentence-stuttering and that left eyebrow of his climbing repeatedly halfway up his forehead kept distracting me.

OK, admit it, I did pay attention. I caught a few examples of him lying through his teeth.


2 posted on 02/01/2006 3:56:45 PM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: wjersey

Rove nailed it and the twits-including this one-still can't deal with it.


3 posted on 02/01/2006 4:01:16 PM PST by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: wjersey

Quote: Well, we should all be “working together” to “give our troops the tools they need to win the war on terror.”


Uh, couldn't the Demonrats do that now instead of fighting the President on every issue!?

Or, how about reigning in the more looney elements in the press and on the left who are constantly undermining the war effort.

Its no wonder nobody trusts them when it comes to national security and law enforcement. They are clueless. And these hollow "we got to do better" platitudes make it all the more obvious.


4 posted on 02/01/2006 4:02:57 PM PST by Kandy Atz ("Let him rave on that men may know him mad.")
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To: wjersey

The problem with the Democratic response was that it was the same old crap....the "I have a plan" response which of course is nothing but code for Socialism.


5 posted on 02/01/2006 4:03:54 PM PST by socialismisinsidious (Liberals are all about choice UNTIL you choose differently than them.)
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To: socialismisinsidious

That guy was so weak and their message was so weak and incoherent that I laughed for hours....heeheehhee


6 posted on 02/01/2006 4:07:47 PM PST by samadams2000 (Remember our Founding Fathers were REAL men- Unlike today's Rinos)
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To: wjersey

The response was not a serious attempt to communicate with the nation. Such a response should receive a failing grade.


7 posted on 02/01/2006 4:10:14 PM PST by Revererdrv
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To: wjersey
Of course Democrats like Kaine and the party’s leadership on Capitol Hill do what they do for a reason. First, they have real differences with Republicans over how to pursue the fight against terrorism.

I think they still want to pursue it as Clinton did after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, as a crime to be solved by the police/FBI and adjudicated by the local courts, not as terrorism.

8 posted on 02/01/2006 4:10:47 PM PST by Flifuss (SCE to Aux.)
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To: samadams2000

Well, if it makes anyone feel any better, I was trolling over at DU today and saw that the DUmmies were blasting Kaine too, calling him a "DINO" and "Republican-lite." Go figure!


9 posted on 02/01/2006 4:26:37 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Revererdrv
The response was not a serious attempt to communicate with the nation. Such a response should receive a failing grade.

Somewhat off topic, but the post-SOTU Dem response wasn't even seen by many ... who dashed off right after the President's speech to search for updates about Saint Cindy's detention and arrest. So in a perverse way, Cindy's attempt to disrupt the SOTU address only succeeded in 'disrupting' the Dem's response.

Another moonbat sabotages the Dems .... ya gotta love it :)

10 posted on 02/01/2006 4:29:22 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: wjersey

But but but David Gergen fell in love with Kaine. Thought he was just wonderful!


11 posted on 02/01/2006 4:38:12 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: adam_az
OK, admit it, I did pay attention. I caught a few examples of him lying through his teeth.

I his case lets just say to "lying through your eyebrow".

12 posted on 02/01/2006 4:48:43 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: adam_az

The eyebrow!!! LOL!
Did he say that he wasn't an expert in security or is that a rumor?


13 posted on 02/01/2006 4:55:36 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: wjersey

The dims obviously picked him because he was a missionary and made religious talk.


14 posted on 02/02/2006 4:48:37 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: wjersey

One glance at this maggot -Tim Kaine- and he hardly inspires any confidence that he can fight his way out of a paper bag. He looked gay to me. I never saw or heard of the maggot. I was appalled because the image of Virginia is that it's more sane and more conservative than Maryland.

I'm still laughing that the Donks chose this bush leaguer to respond to the State of the Union


15 posted on 02/02/2006 4:55:03 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: wjersey
Kaine is the new (old) face of the Democrat Party. His left is much more active than his right and he has all the credibility of a used car salesman in a cheap suit.

The only reason they picked Kaine is he is a total unknown and they figured they might be able to fool some rubes just one more time. The rest of the Party has already been outed. Who else could they send in there?... Pelosi? Reid? Shumer? Dean? They not only have no bench, but they have no team!

Of course, they could have sent in Hillary!, but then the American People would get to see and hear her as well - a very bad move.

16 posted on 02/02/2006 7:44:34 AM PST by Gritty ("Fighting the jihad in the courtroom means you’ll lose" - Mark Steyn)
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