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We are never going to recognise Israel: Hamas leader-We can reach out to them with long-term hudna
DNA India ^ | 1-29-06

Posted on 01/29/2006 6:15:16 AM PST by SJackson

LONDON: Mahmoud Zahar, the joint leader of Hamas which has been voted to power in last week's Palestinian election, has ruled out recognising Israel.

"We are not going to recognize Israel," Zahar said in an interview published in the Sunday Telegraph on Sunday, putting paid to suggestions that Hamas may alter its 1988 charter calling for the destruction of the Jewish state.

But he added: "We can reach out to them with a long-term hudna (truce)."

In the interview given in Gaza city, Zahar also called on the world to recognise Hamas.

"The outside world must not fear us," he said, adding that while Hamas did not yet have official contact with the west, "we have channels of communication."

"We meet all the time," said Zahar, who first rose to power in Hamas in 1989, a year after Ahmed Yassin was jailed by Israel for ordering the execution of alleged collaborators with the Jewish state.

"Spies and thieves must fear us," he said, in his pastel-coloured reception room in the Gaza city, where he was holding court as the new most powerful man in town, the daily reported.

The "thieves," he said, in a reference to Israel, "are those who steal our land."

At the same time, he said "we must not cancel everything" in reference to the series of deals and accords that the Palestinian Authority has so far signed with Israel.

"There is a reality and we must deal with it." Answering a question, Zahar said "It's not a personal ambition of mine to be prime minister.

According to the report, Hamas may instead be seeking for the top job an independent candidate who could facilitate a rapprochement with a world where it continues to be seen as a terror group.

The organisation's first choice for the post, Salam Fayyad, a technocrat who until recently was the Palestinian finance minister, has turned it down.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hamas; israel; mahmoudzahar; paelection; zahar
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1 posted on 01/29/2006 6:15:18 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

"We pledge to postpone the destruction of the Zionist pigs until after negotiations have concluded. Let's talk!" </hamas>


2 posted on 01/29/2006 6:17:24 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: SJackson

The man is a Islamo-fascist imbecile BUMP!


3 posted on 01/29/2006 6:18:57 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: AntiGuv

I wonder if we should be concerned that 'hudna' appears to have the same root as 'Hudood: The most serious kinds of crime in Islamic law, such as those pertaining to theft and adultery.'


4 posted on 01/29/2006 6:21:08 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Muhammad)
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To: SJackson

Dance Hamas! Dance!

5 posted on 01/29/2006 6:22:03 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: SJackson
The Palestinians made their bed so now they can lay in it. Jimmy Carter the other day said that we should support the Palestinians through the UN even though they are controlled by Hamas Terrorist. If Jimmy Carter had any brains he would realize that he just advocated the US government break the law by money laundering through the UN to a terrorist supported state. The people elected Hamas knowing the consequences for their actions so they are no better than the terrorist and I find it disgusting that a Former US President is trying to circumvent the law to support these people.
6 posted on 01/29/2006 6:25:49 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: SJackson

A hudna is a strategic truce designed to deceive.

It will lull a superior force enemy into vulnerability, and then allow its destruction at a more strategic time.

Only a malicious, anti-freedom press would prevent this from being commonly known in the West.

So when a Radical Muslim tells you he is for a hudna (peace/truce), it is the most vile interpretation possible.

The hypocrisy is shameless, like the Rats. Recognize our government although we are terrorists who have killed Americans. But we refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist.

Easy enough to resolve - Israel destroys its sworn enemy.

But Liberal Rats from the UN on down are responsible for most of the world's on-going problems.


7 posted on 01/29/2006 6:29:22 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (The Bush White House PR is easily the worst ever)
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A long term hudna, a few attacks blamed on renegade terror groups can happen to keep the populace excited, is an excellent idea. If Hamas can stay quiet for 6 months to a year, the West will flock to their cause.

8 posted on 01/29/2006 6:29:52 AM PST by SJackson (elected members of Hamas: businesspeople, professionals, not terrorists. Scott McClellan)
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To: Wasanother
Why is it that both Arabs and liberals have absolutely no abilities of logical thought?

The Palestinians refuse to recognize Israel, a country that was franchised by the U.N., but demand that the world recognize hamas, which has no country?

9 posted on 01/29/2006 6:35:37 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (A member of the Appalachian-American minority -- and proud of it!)
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To: SJackson

I don't think 6 months is needed. Let us see what the quartet says on Monday. They've had a whole week end to recover from the shock, and I think it is now going to be business as usual (maybe with the exception of the USA - mid-term election around the corner).


10 posted on 01/29/2006 6:38:03 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: SJackson
"The outside world must not fear us," he said

We just want to destroy Israel, not you. Heh, heh.

11 posted on 01/29/2006 6:39:23 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SJackson

yes and we all know what a Palestinian truce is worth, and how long it will last.


12 posted on 01/29/2006 6:47:07 AM PST by DaiHuy (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Wasanother

Not a single nickel to Hamas.


13 posted on 01/29/2006 6:51:54 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Rats! You beat me to it. That was nearly EXACTLY what I was going to post, word for word!


14 posted on 01/29/2006 7:06:00 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: AntiGuv
We can reach out to them with a long-term hudna

The hudna is a missle, provided by iran that has both a long range as well as a long term.

15 posted on 01/29/2006 7:41:24 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: rlmorel
You beat me to it.

Saved you the typing. Glad to make you a co-author.

16 posted on 01/29/2006 9:49:17 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: SJackson
"We are not going to recognize Israel," Zahar said in an interview published in the Sunday Telegraph on Sunday, putting paid to suggestions that Hamas may alter its 1988 charter calling for the destruction of the Jewish state.

But he added: "We can reach out to them with a long-term hudna (truce)."

I posted this on an earlier thread but if is appropriate here.

It's the old Hudna trick that the Jews fall for over and over again.

from 2003 http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Hudna_With_Hamas.asp

Hudna has a distinct meaning to Islamic fundamentalists, well-versed in their history: The prophet Mohammad struck a legendary, ten-year hudna with the Quraysh tribe that controlled Mecca in the seventh century. Over the following two years, Mohammad rearmed and took advantage of a minor Quraysh infraction to break the hudna and launch the full conquest of Mecca, the holiest city in Islam.

When Yassir Arafat infamously invoked Mohammad's hudna in 1994 to describe his own Oslo commitments "on the road to Jerusalem," the implication was clear. As Mideast expert Daniel Pipes explained, Arafat was asserting to his Islamic brethren that he will, "when his circumstances change for the better, take advantage of some technicality to tear up existing accords and launch a military assault on Israel." Indeed, this is precisely what occurred in Sept. 2000 when Arafat & Co. launched a terror assault upon Israeli citizens.

As for Hamas, they have proven time and again their commitment to a tactical hudna — replenishing their strength during the quiet periods, then returning with increased deadliness. As recently documented by The Washington Institute, Hamas agreed to no less than ten ceasefires in the past ten years, and after every single one returned freshly armed for terror. Hundreds of Israeli citizens have paid for these hudnas with their lives.

17 posted on 01/29/2006 10:29:50 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: SJackson
Hamas, which catapulted to power in this week's Palestinian elections, will soon make public a "peace initiative" in which it will offer to trade strategic land with Israel, cease attempts to capture parts of Jerusalem, and sign a 10-year renewable cease-fire with the Jewish state." says Hamas chief Mahmoud al-Zahar.

But the Hamas leader said the plan, which he justified using Islamic tradition, is a temporary machination to ease international and U.S. hostility toward his group in hopes of receiving financial assistance, explaining Hamas will not give up its goal of destroying Israel.

Watch them make a peace (truce) initiative... and watch the world fall all over them...

18 posted on 01/29/2006 1:03:48 PM PST by BigFinn
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To: Capt. Tom

Got it. Hudna=tactic.


19 posted on 01/29/2006 1:07:52 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: SJackson

They are not going to do anything to bring down Israeli wrath on them now.

They can not mount a successful war against Israel without first attaining a prerequisite target.

They must takeover Jordan first.


20 posted on 01/29/2006 1:15:40 PM PST by Sabramerican
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