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U.S. backs off envoy's threat to India
MSNBC ^ | 1/25/06 | AP

Posted on 01/25/2006 11:42:41 AM PST by minus_273

NEW DELHI - A landmark nuclear deal between India and the United States will “die” in Washington if New Delhi supports Iran at the upcoming meeting of the U.N. atomic watchdog agency, the U.S. ambassador said Wednesday.

A week before the International Atomic Energy Agency meets to discuss Iran’s nuclear program, U.S. Ambassador David Mulford said that if India does not vote to refer Tehran to the U.N. Security Council, it would be “devastating” to the deal currently before the U.S. Congress.

“I think the Congress will simply stop considering the matter,” Mulford told the Press Trust of India news agency.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: india; iran; irannukes; israel; nukes; pakistan
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New Delhi voted in September with the U.S. and European powers on an earlier IAEA resolution that could have led to Iran’s referral to the council.

But the Indian government faced fierce domestic criticism over the move from its left-wing political allies, who accused it of selling out a longtime ally to curry favor with Washington. New Delhi has, in recent weeks, appeared hesitant to repeat the vote.

at least pakistan (government at least) has been a loyal ally for 50 years. I wonder which side india will take.
I mean india sided against us in the cold war, gulf war, Gulf war II and now in the dispute with Iran. India defenders, what do you say to india siding with Iran against us here? At what point do you say a country is not a friend?

1 posted on 01/25/2006 11:42:43 AM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

Who is "us"? Are you an American or a Pakistani?


2 posted on 01/25/2006 11:45:34 AM PST by Saberwielder
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To: Saberwielder

the US


3 posted on 01/25/2006 11:46:00 AM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

So are you an American? If not what is your interest here? You seem to be beinding over backwards for Pakistan.


4 posted on 01/25/2006 11:47:12 AM PST by Saberwielder
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To: minus_273
New Delhi voted in September with the U.S. and European powers on an earlier IAEA resolution that could have led to Iran’s referral to the council.

what do you say to india siding with Iran against us here? At what point do you say a country is not a friend?

I don't know if I'm an 'India defender' but you should consider that India has not sided with Iran yet, but actually their most recent vote was with us. Concern over their next vote is, of course, warranted, for the reasons you state; but stick to the facts, not the rumors or 'hesitance' reported in the papers.

5 posted on 01/25/2006 11:47:32 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: Saberwielder

Does Bostonian count as American?


6 posted on 01/25/2006 11:49:37 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: minus_273

This has been going on for decades. India is another one of those so-called allies that has never done a thing for the US. Anyone who thinks India will help us out on this Iran matter is living on another planet. The Security Council will most likely do nothing of about Iran regardless of what India does, so it is all but a moot point. This matter will be left up to NATO and possibly just the US, Britain, France, and Austrailia.


7 posted on 01/25/2006 11:51:28 AM PST by sangrila
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To: ASA Vet

Hmm, the People's Republic of Massachusetts...Seriously, you can reside in the US without being an American. Do you think those of CAIR are Americans?


8 posted on 01/25/2006 11:52:09 AM PST by Saberwielder
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To: Saberwielder

no i'm calling a spade a spade. Obviously, i have an interest in what Iran is doing. are you nuts?


9 posted on 01/25/2006 11:57:18 AM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

I repeat. Your profile says you are not American. You have repeatedly tried to flame topic pertaining to a particular country (India). It will help the rest of us Freepers understand and evaluate your points better if you are honest about your nationality. Are you a Pakistani or of Pakistani origin?


10 posted on 01/25/2006 11:59:03 AM PST by Saberwielder
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Us = America

Easy on that, trigger, Tex. He's one of us.


11 posted on 01/25/2006 12:03:18 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: minus_273

I think Pakistan is the one that is more likely to side with Iran on this one. India is now a major player. I think they realize this and realize the responsibilities associated with such.


12 posted on 01/25/2006 12:05:27 PM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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India has a lot of anti-American leftists as part of its ruling coalition. However, its leaders must know that they have a binary choice with respect to Iran. If they vote against holding Iran to account - they will set back relations between India and the US a great deal.


13 posted on 01/25/2006 12:09:19 PM PST by Saberwielder
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i guess what you are implying is something along the lines of "how dare you question india's loyalty? you must be pakistani or a muslim"

As to your question on who i am, it is complelty irrelevant to the discussion. Where i am from and who i am does not change the fact that india might back Iran this time. Your tactic is a common logical fallacy called poisioning the well. Some how if i am pakistani or a muslim, it will negate this article i have posted about india possibly siding with the mullas in Iran. You have to stoop to this level because you have nothing to support your side.

To spare you the trouble, I live in boston, i am not indian or pakistani or muslim of have any sort of association with it. I can tell you about the wonder of catholic school though. Shall i start with St. Ignatius day? St Ignatius of Loyola was orignially a soldier...

I cant even believe that paragraph was necessary to somehow validate the article. It is a sad day on FR when racial or religious purity is necessary to post something. You sir are an idiot.


14 posted on 01/25/2006 12:10:31 PM PST by minus_273
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Who you are is very relevant to what you say. I'd discount a post by an Armenian against Turkey or by a Muslim against Israel. As to your thread, you failed to note in your excerpt that India had voted with the US and the EU and against Iran just months back. Yet in your listing of alleged anti-US acts by India you say "and now Iran" as if India had already stated it's decision to go against us on Iran. This follows a pattern of posts by you on threads pertaining to that part of the world where you jumped in to selectively use excerpts. Such sneaky behavior naturally begs suspicion as to what your agenda is.


15 posted on 01/25/2006 12:19:12 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: Saberwielder

What difference does it make where he is from? Everything he posted about India is true. India didn't back us during the Cold War, Vietnam, Desert Storm, or Iraqi Freedom. The last time they supported us was during WWII when they had the Japanese closing in on them.

And you wouldn't necessarily have to get an Armenian to post negatively against Turkey. You could just find a Greek, Slav, Kurd, Arab, or one of the other ethnic groups that they committed genocide and war crimes against. You can often learn the most about a nation from its enemies.


16 posted on 01/25/2006 12:28:19 PM PST by sangrila
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To: minus_273

India is trying to join the Russia-China alliance, and gets a lot of oil from Iran.


17 posted on 01/25/2006 12:32:48 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: sangrila

Yes, India was against us for much if the 20th century but the cold war is over. France was allied to us all those years but it isn't today. Poland was our enemy then but is allied to us now. The Bush administration has made it a main feature of its foreign policy to reach out to like minded nations irrespective of the past. Forging an alliance with India is a key part of that new policy. Are you telling me that we should let the Cold War alliance dictate who our allies will be in the 21st century? Is the Bush policy wrong?


18 posted on 01/25/2006 12:32:50 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: sangrila

BTW, Welcome to FR, newbie ;)


19 posted on 01/25/2006 12:33:39 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: sangrila

"This has been going on for decades. India is another one of those so-called allies that has never done a thing for the US"


I don't know, they answer the phone quick when I call about a Dell or Gateway problem, can't understand them, but they answer quick


20 posted on 01/25/2006 12:34:19 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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