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Elated Scientists Say Space-Dust Mission Exceeded Expectations
NY Times ^ | January 20, 2006 | WARREN E. LEARY

Posted on 01/19/2006 10:36:07 PM PST by neverdem

The Stardust mission to bring back samples of comet and interstellar dust was more successful than they had hoped, scientists said yesterday.

The 100-pound sample container from the seven-year mission, which landed on the salt flats of Utah on Sunday, captured thousands of particles, perhaps even a million, that originated at the edge of the solar system or from distant stars, they said.

While they had expected mostly microscopic samples, the researchers said, a surprising number of the particles were large enough to be seen with the naked eye.

"It exceeded all of our grandest expectations," Donald Brownlee of the University of Washington said in a televised news conference from the Johnson Space Center in Houston, where the samples were taken for study.

The cargo in the Stardust's sample container, which was opened Tuesday, "was an ancient cosmic treasure from the very edge of the solar system," Dr. Brownlee said. Scientists believe that these particles are the pristine remains of the material that formed the planets and other bodies some 4.6 billion years ago.

The spacecraft flew with a 14-inch-wide collector that resembled a tennis racket and was filled with aerogel, a silicon material composed of 99.8 percent air. The aerogel gently slowed and trapped particles without significantly damaging them. When the particles hit the aerogel, they left tracks in the material.

Before the Stardust returned from its 2.9-billion-mile trek around the inner solar system, which included a close encounter with the comet Wild 2 near Jupiter on Jan. 2, 2004, Dr. Brownlee cautioned fellow researchers not to be disappointed if they did not see evidence of the particles with the naked eye, he said.

"The prediction was that we would get a dozen particles larger than human hair size and one particle a little bit larger than a millimeter,"...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: comets; johnsonspacecenter; space; stardust

NASA, via Bloomberg News
Donald Brownlee, the Stardust mission's principal investigator, gave a victory sign while examining the particle collector on Tuesday in Houston.
1 posted on 01/19/2006 10:36:09 PM PST by neverdem
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To: King Prout; KevinDavis

ping


2 posted on 01/19/2006 10:37:16 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem; martin_fierro
"Oddly enough," the scientists added, "the space dust is chemically identical to Cremora."
3 posted on 01/19/2006 10:37:35 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

LOL!


4 posted on 01/19/2006 10:38:26 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Petronski

And it's just as tasty.


5 posted on 01/19/2006 10:44:28 PM PST by mhx
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To: neverdem

"a surprising number of the particles were large enough to be seen with the naked eye. "

That's impressive. I know there's a 'stardust@home' kind of program going on. I wonder if it'll really be needed? I believe it was under the assumption that it would be really hard to find particles.


6 posted on 01/19/2006 10:46:20 PM PST by Lauretij2
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To: neverdem
While they had expected mostly microscopic samples, the researchers said, a surprising number of the particles were large enough to be seen with the naked eye.

That's really fantastic.

7 posted on 01/19/2006 10:49:23 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: neverdem

This is just too cool.


8 posted on 01/19/2006 10:51:35 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: neverdem

Cut to the future 3006:

Scientists found evidence today of what cause the mass extinction of the human race in the early part of the last millenium...


9 posted on 01/19/2006 10:52:52 PM PST by Eddie01 (keep your space dust and rocket rocks to yourself)
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To: neverdem

10 posted on 01/19/2006 11:00:07 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: neverdem

That title ("space dust") makes me think a Far Side cartoon would fit well. Some cleaning lady vacumming up all the dust and muttering something about "those messy scientists".

Speaking of "cleanliness" - I guess they're not concerned that anything bad might have been picked up that they could be affected by? Me? I think I'd be working through one of glass enclosures with the rubber arms! (Ignorant that I am of these things - although I guess if the cold of outerspace didn't kill any microbes the heat of re-entry would have!?).


11 posted on 01/19/2006 11:41:03 PM PST by geopyg (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: neverdem

As we gaze upon these particles, what is the first thing that comes to our mind? A billion dollars for dust particles that in our atmosphere would be considered airborne contamination.


12 posted on 01/19/2006 11:46:30 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: neverdem
Areogel




13 posted on 01/19/2006 11:59:21 PM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: Dallas59

OK space guys. So your quarters are bigger than ours and transparent. Big stinkin deal.


14 posted on 01/20/2006 12:03:31 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Dallas59

That is some STRANGE looking stuff! Which spurs two questions:

1. What does it feel like? Is it like a gel? If you touched it would you dent it, or is it resilient at all, or what?

2. How much does it cost to get a piece? :-)


15 posted on 01/20/2006 12:09:49 AM PST by jennyp (WWJBD?)
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To: neverdem
Aerogel insulator:


16 posted on 01/20/2006 12:10:25 AM PST by TChad
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To: Dallas59

Is this stuff for real? If so, where can I get my hands on some? I got some insulation ideas I wanna test out with it. Anyone int he know, please reply.

17 posted on 01/20/2006 12:11:34 AM PST by PureSolace (God save us all)
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To: PureSolace
Don't think it's commercially available....yet.
18 posted on 01/20/2006 12:13:58 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: neverdem
Well, I read that it's all clogged up with Space Dryer Lint and Space Cat Fur.
19 posted on 01/20/2006 12:16:16 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: PureSolace; Dallas59; SuziQ
Aerogel is available, but not its not cheap:

http://www.mkt-intl.com/aerogels/AerogelOrderForm.PDF

Suggest you shop around ...
20 posted on 01/20/2006 12:20:54 AM PST by SirKit (Truth is Precious---The Truth is of the Essence of God)
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To: jennyp
That is some STRANGE looking stuff!

Sure is. I thought those photos were a Photoshop hoax, but they are real. More info here:

http://eande.lbl.gov/ECS/aerogels/satoc.htm

21 posted on 01/20/2006 12:23:13 AM PST by TChad
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To: taxesareforever
As we gaze upon these particles, what is the first thing that comes to our mind? A billion dollars for dust particles that in our atmosphere would be considered airborne contamination.

Dr. Brownlee said the $212 million cost of the 10-year Stardust project was a bargain considering the amount of knowledge it should provide about the origins of the solar system and Earth. "The way I like to look at it," he said with a laugh, "it's the same cost as a well-paid baseball player over a 10-year period."

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I'd be more inclined to agree with your sympathies if other government enterprises were first defunded, e.g. the Departments of Education, etc.

22 posted on 01/20/2006 12:37:03 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: TChad

Cool. Thanks!


23 posted on 01/20/2006 12:45:52 AM PST by jennyp (WWJBD?)
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24 posted on 01/20/2006 12:55:42 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Petronski
"Oddly enough," the scientists added, "the space dust is chemically identical to Cremora."

LOL

25 posted on 01/20/2006 1:01:23 AM PST by beyond the sea (Cal Thomas: If only Robert Bork had cried ...................)
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To: neverdem
I'd be more inclined to agree with your sympathies if other government enterprises were first defunded, e.g. the Departments of Education, etc.

If the Department of Education was disbanded and education was left to the state I would be more supportive of space exploration. As it is, space exploration is s waste of money since it is proof of life is what they are after.

26 posted on 01/20/2006 1:08:46 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever
As it is, space exploration is s waste of money since it is proof of life is what they are after.

According to whom?

27 posted on 01/20/2006 1:13:38 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Does not 4.6 billion years tell you anything? For sure, the education system has failed.


28 posted on 01/20/2006 1:18:46 AM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever
Does not 4.6 billion years tell you anything? For sure, the education system has failed.

4.6 billion years is the estimated age of the solar system. Do you have a problem with that estimate? I first trained as a chemist and then as a physician. Is there a problem with scientific or Scriptural assumptions?

29 posted on 01/20/2006 1:40:21 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: dead

You read my mind!


30 posted on 01/20/2006 1:40:23 AM PST by thoughtomator
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To: Eddie01
Scientists found evidence today of what cause the mass extinction of the human race in the early part of the last millenium...


31 posted on 01/20/2006 2:38:03 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: neverdem
"The spacecraft flew with a 14-inch-wide collector that resembled a tennis racket and was filled with aerogel, a silicon material composed of 99.8 percent air."

By the time it was deployed, I'm sure there was no "air" int the "aerogel", and all that was there was the dendritic silicate matrix.

32 posted on 01/20/2006 4:09:06 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: taxesareforever
space exploration is s waste of money since it is proof of life is what they are after.

That's only a small piece of it.

Someone once said: "It's raining soup in space" and we don't have a bowl to catch it in. The asteroids are probably full of metal and metal ores, sunlight is there for energy, and Jupiter and other planets and their satellites are big balls of reaction mass and/or fuel. We just have to learn more about it all, and how to get their and exploit it.

33 posted on 01/20/2006 9:06:50 AM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: neverdem
Is there a problem with scientific or Scriptural assumptions?

You mean "scientific guesses" and "Scriptural truth". No I don't have a problem looking at it this way.

34 posted on 01/20/2006 12:22:14 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: El Gato
We just have to learn more about it all, and how to get their and exploit it.

Why? We'll never exploit it. Environmentalists will want to leave it in pristine condition.

35 posted on 01/20/2006 12:23:49 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever

Stay tuned. I putting some space dust up for auction on eBay next week, along with the last of my tsunami water.


36 posted on 01/20/2006 12:30:46 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

LOL!


37 posted on 01/20/2006 4:28:57 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: geopyg

Then how is your supply of squeeze?


38 posted on 01/20/2006 4:34:35 PM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: dead

The Kerry Kondom! Great work.


39 posted on 01/20/2006 4:37:23 PM PST by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: Petronski

C'mon! Everybody knows that Cremora is made of dehydrated minced elephant ears!


40 posted on 01/21/2006 4:55:39 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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