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Costa Mesa Boycott Threat(Illegals. Ya gotta read this!)
The Orange County Register ^ | January 19, 2006 | PEGGY LOWE

Posted on 01/19/2006 6:08:35 AM PST by kellynla

SANTA ANA – As local law enforcement appealed to Latino leaders Wednesday to help with controversial plans to enforce immigration laws, one Hispanic activist threatened protests in Costa Mesa if the proposals are approved.

Nativo Lopez said if the plans are enacted he will ask Latinos to refuse to cooperate with Costa Mesa police through a campaign of "non-confidence and silence," will launch a boycott of businesses within the city, and will hold a mass march and rally there on President's Day weekend.

Lopez was among several people, including Sheriff Mike Carona and Costa Mesa Police Chief John Hensley, who spoke at a discussion organized by the Orange County Community Forum, an organization of faith, ethnic and grass-roots groups.

Police sweeps are nothing new, Lopez said, but now police and politicians are using fears brought on by the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to justify a public policy that they say will help cut crime.

"The fallacy of these arguments about crime and security is that they have been tried before, but previously the anti-immigrant crowd did not have the Twin Towers as their big fig leaf," Lopez said.

Carona and Hensley didn't react to Lopez's threat during the forum. Both asked Latino leaders for help in educating the community on their plans, which they said have been mischaracterized as racial profiling and sweeps aimed at undocumented immigrants.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; nativolopez
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"For the past 18 months, Carona has been fine-tuning a proposal to train deputies who work in the jails and on investigations to enforce federal immigration laws against those foreign nationals suspected of a felony or who have been convicted of serious crimes.

Carona said his proposal seeks to get "the worst of the worst" off the streets and back to their home country. The plan will not be a license to do sweeps, but is rather a "thoughtful" proposal that is not as radical as it's being portrayed, he said.

"We want the community to dial back some of the rhetoric that we are becoming a xenophobic society," Carona said.

After the forum, Hensley said he was disappointed by Lopez's call to refuse to cooperate with police.

"That's doesn't serve anyone," Hensley said. "The only way we can make progress is if we have consistent dialogue. Shutting down the dialogue and refusing to cooperate with us are going to hurt the people he represents. But I'm not going to give up hope."

Lopez lost his job as a trustee on the Santa Ana school board when he was recalled in 2003. However, a federal appeals court ruled two months ago that the recall was conducted improperly because there were no ballots printed in Spanish.

First elected to the board in 1996, Lopez was a champion of immigrant parents' rights and bilingual education."

1 posted on 01/19/2006 6:08:38 AM PST by kellynla
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"The fallacy of these arguments about crime and security is that they have been tried before, but previously the anti-immigrant crowd did not have the Twin Towers as their big fig leaf," Lopez said.

How dare you insult one of the worst terrorist attacks on American soil you piece of filth. I'd like to deport you from this life.
2 posted on 01/19/2006 6:28:29 AM PST by steel_resolve
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enforce federal immigration laws against those foreign nationals suspected of a felony or who have been convicted of serious crimes.

So, I guess this would be Lopez's core constituency. They should make an admirable contribution to a civil society.

3 posted on 01/19/2006 6:35:32 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: kellynla; Calpernia; nw_arizona_granny; Cindy
"The fallacy of these arguments about crime and security is that they have been tried before, but previously the anti-immigrant crowd did not have the Twin Towers as their big fig leaf," Lopez said.

"Nativo Lopez"...get the hell out of my country.

4 posted on 01/19/2006 6:37:26 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: kellynla; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


5 posted on 01/19/2006 6:42:33 AM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ Serving those who serve us ~)
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And the Left Angeles Times reporting on this same story.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-immig19jan19,0,6460632,print.story?coll=la-home-local


6 posted on 01/19/2006 6:50:07 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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"Lopez was a champion of immigrant parents' rights "

IOW how to maximize exploitation of the anchor-baby problem


7 posted on 01/19/2006 6:50:22 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: siunevada
and what is not being reported in this articles is the fact that the illegals are hurting the "working poor."
The illegals not only take jobs from American citizens but also pull down the wage scale for those jobs.

And of course we all know the education, incarceration, medical, welfare and housing costs because of illegals.

Lastly, I have a business associate who has a warehouse next to the Home Depot in Costa Mesa.
He was been robbed twice at gun point and lost 200K dollars in merchandise in those two robberies in the last year. Both times by Hispanics.
8 posted on 01/19/2006 7:14:37 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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ping


9 posted on 01/19/2006 7:34:56 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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Nativo Lopez said if the plans are enacted he will ask Latinos to refuse to cooperate with Costa Mesa police through a campaign of "non-confidence and silence," will launch a boycott of businesses within the city, and will hold a mass march and rally there on President's Day weekend.

Sounds like a good time and place for some border guard Training, I bet they could rent some buses from Willie Wonka.

10 posted on 01/19/2006 7:40:22 AM PST by greylurker (Biloxi Pinger)
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"boycott of businesses within the city"

We would be happy if the illegals would just boycott robbing the businesses in Costa Mesa!


11 posted on 01/19/2006 7:44:20 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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These traitors burn me up. Grrrr!!!!!


12 posted on 01/19/2006 7:53:58 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: kellynla

bump


13 posted on 01/19/2006 7:55:03 AM PST by VOA
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and how 'bout L.A. funding a "day center" for the illegals at Home Depot???

the insanity never ceases to amaze me! LOL

the ambulance chasers will be parked outside every Home Depot in L.A. waiting for one of these clowns to slip and fall down so they can sue L.A. and Home Depot!


14 posted on 01/19/2006 7:58:30 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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Maybe the police should just check status of all arrests made in Costa Mesa, that should take care of most of the illegal immigrants anyhow.

I heard up to 95 % of inmates are illegal.


15 posted on 01/19/2006 8:09:14 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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The immigrant-illegal con game is so predictable: They whine about coming here b/c they want only to get "menial jobs" to help out their poverty-stricken families in "underdeveloped countries."

Then, before you can say "hasta la vista, baby," working class born-American taxpayers are footing the bills for immigrants' medical needs, welfare, food stamps, housing, all levels of schooling including college, child care, maternity benefits, and so on. Taxpayers are subsidizing immigrants' daily food intake, housing, reduced mortgages, free medical, education, reduced in-state tuition and out of state tuition fees. We also foot the legal bills when they start suing if we don't provide these goodies pronto.

Lastly, and more ominous, is that they become hyphenated voting blocs, demanding representation in the US Congress, state legislatures and beyond so that they can get even more government benefits.

They bring with them their utter contempt for our efforts to maintain a civilied society under our Constitution.

OK, did I hear you say "underdeveloped countries?"

The government of Mexico---with all of its oil revenue----needs to be taking care of its own people, not "outsourcing' them as wards of American taxpayers. Mexico can well-afford it. Mexico has more "Forbes" billionaires, 11, than all but eight other nations. It has more billionaires than Saudi Arabia, Switzerland or Taiwan. It also has more than 85,000 millionaires.

According to a CNN report, Mexico sits on oil reserves worth about $400 billion, but Mexico's state-owned oil company, Pemex, doesn't have the investment funds to tap those reserves, and Mexico's Congress refuses to allow foreign investment in Pemex. However, some observers say this is due to Mexican gov't corruption, and the obsession to line their own pockets. Adding insult to injury American taxpayers are subsidizing foreign aid transfers to Mexico.

According to Visa International--which is now clamoring for a share of the transfer fees--American money sent South of the Border by illegals constitutes $38 BILLION this year alone constituting Mexico's second largest most profitable industry.

America should mandate proof for all cash transfers out of the US and/or force all transferring agencies -- banks, credit unions, Amex, Western Union to collect a substantial withholding tax -- 50%, say -- on every unexplained foreign remittance.

Mexico is a wealthy oil-producing neighbor of the US forces its poor people to flee to the US to work and then send money back home.

Mexico has no welfare safety nets, health insurance for its people and no Social Security System. The US even provides the defense umbrella to protect Mexico, so they have no real defense expenses.

America needs to seal our borders and let Vincente Fox know that we will cut off every penny in aid he gets from the United States.

This unmitigated contempt for America, and working-class, tax-paying Americans, cannot go unchallenged. The sense of entitlement these people have is outrageous-----that the rest of us owe them a living. And that US citizens, and the US government, exist for their convenience while they break our laws, at will.

The only thing between us and camouflage-clad federales patrolling our streets with shoulder holsters is the rule of law.

16 posted on 01/19/2006 8:12:18 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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well I have been a proponent of deporting ALL incarcerated illegals(who account for about ONE THIRD of all prisoners in America) except for maybe those on death row.
Which would not only open up slots for American perverts but would also reduce prison costs throughout the country. Of course we would first have to SECURE THE BORDERS(build a fence/wall) & PORTS!


17 posted on 01/19/2006 8:14:03 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

In some other cities the "illegal alien lounges" haven't worked out. They use a "lottery" system to assign waiting workers to the slimeball day-hiring employers. This does not reward the illegals who hustle and run to the trucks, and they have to wait all day while the stupid, slow and lazy get jobs, so they end up going back outside anyway.


18 posted on 01/19/2006 8:16:12 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: kellynla

When deporting the incarcerated ones, find their families and deport them as well.

The family that deports together, stays together. Isn't that what all the open border people have been worried about is separating families???


19 posted on 01/19/2006 8:17:04 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Travis McGee

oh this whole business is ridiculous!

instead of enforcing the friggin' laws they are encouraging more of these clowns to show up...
until people & businesses are shamed and/or fined and stop hiring these clowns;
the problem will continue to get worse!

and like I said earlier;
the illegals will be faking injury and suing L.A. and Home Depot! you just wait and see...every ambulance chaser withing fifty miles will have their representatives sitting out front just waiting to represent one of these clowns in a lawsuit.


20 posted on 01/19/2006 8:22:54 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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