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West underestimates sexual fear among Islamists: Rushdie
AFP Via Yahoo ^

Posted on 01/18/2006 8:32:44 PM PST by SmoothTalker

British author Salman Rushdie said the West had failed to grasp the extent to which Islamic extremism was rooted in men's fear of women's sexuality.

Rushdie told German weekly magazine Stern that his latest novel, "Shalimar the Clown", dealt with the deep anxiety felt among many Islamic men about female sexual freedom and lost honor.

When asked if the book drew a link between "Islamic terror and damaged male honor", Rushdie said he saw it as a crucial, and often overlooked, point.

"The Western-Christian world view deals with the issues of guilt and salvation, a concept that is completely unimportant in the East because there is no original sin and no savior," he said, in comments printed in German.

"Instead, great importance is given to 'honor'. I consider that to be problematic. But of course it is underestimated how many Islamists consciously or unconsciously attempt to restore lost honor."

When asked why he probed the issues in his new novel in the context of a love triangle, he said: "It has a lot to do with sexual fear of women."

Rushdie, 58, said that much of the anger toward the West was provoked by that split on sexual issues.

"(It is) because Western societies do not veil their women. Because they do not defuse this potential danger," he said.

The Indian-born Rushdie, who lives in New York with his fourth wife Padma Lakshmi, told Stern that he has lived without security protection for seven or eight years.

"I go where I please," he said. "I went to India often in the last few years, which I enjoyed."

Rushdie was forced into hiding after the late Iranian spiritual leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a fatwa, or religious edict, in 1989, calling for his execution because of alleged blasphemy and apostasy in his novel "The Satanic Verses".

The author had a 2.8-million-dollar bounty placed on his head by a Tehran-based foundation.


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1 posted on 01/18/2006 8:32:45 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

why not delete both of them. There's at least one previous posting about this, maybe more.


2 posted on 01/18/2006 8:35:19 PM PST by Daralundy
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To: SmoothTalker

Couldn't they just make islammic women dress up like little sheep and goats and put bells on them and what not and give their men what they're really looking for??


3 posted on 01/18/2006 8:42:59 PM PST by darkocean
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To: SmoothTalker


What the arab world needs is a movie,

we`ll call it, Brokeback Ali-Baba .

A love story between Ahmed and Abdul,two sheepherders

who are just misunderstood.


4 posted on 01/18/2006 8:46:19 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: darkocean
...dress up like little sheep and goats and put bells on them and what not and give their men what they're really looking for??....LOL! ...glad you said what, I was thinking...these posts will proable omitted. :D
5 posted on 01/18/2006 8:47:51 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: SmoothTalker
I have also noticed this, they are very afraid the women will make them feel bad. Severe little dick syndrome. The largest enticement for Islam is they get to beat and control women. Really its that simple.
6 posted on 01/18/2006 8:52:28 PM PST by Roverman2K
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To: Para-Ord.45

When birds fly over Kandahar they flap one wing only, covering their behinds with the other.


7 posted on 01/18/2006 9:01:50 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 ("Leave the artillerymen alone . . . they are an obstinate lot.")
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To: SmoothTalker

Islam is the longest sustained case of overecompensation in history.


8 posted on 01/18/2006 9:03:30 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: SmoothTalker
Besides being screwed about screwing, what do they build in the Middle East? They build almost nothing! Since those ignorant terrorist beasts can't build anything, they go around destroying stuff.

Look at Iran. The only thing they actually make is rugs. That's it. Hellooo? How about a doorknob or a chair? Nope, just rugs.

Those people don't even have shoes, yet they walk around with machine-guns. Their people like in mud-dung huts, yet they are busy building nuclear weapons factories.

Because of modern technology, the most dangerous people on earth are those who actually create the least.
9 posted on 01/18/2006 9:17:00 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: SmoothTalker

So all this is because Muslims aren't getting enough?


10 posted on 01/18/2006 9:20:46 PM PST by Howlin
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To: SmoothTalker
Sources of Homicidal Angst: The "Sodatic Zone" (Updated)
11 posted on 01/18/2006 9:30:19 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 ("Leave the artillerymen alone . . . they are an obstinate lot.")
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To: darkocean
The Sexual Rage Behind Islamic Terror
12 posted on 01/18/2006 9:37:39 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 ("Leave the artillerymen alone . . . they are an obstinate lot.")
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To: SmoothTalker

I have an additional take on this:


The Muslim societies, especially the Middle East & Asia Minor, are so authoritarian, abusive, and predatory that the men feel helpless. Their only avenue of dominance and control is the home, and the womenfolk. Not only are the men there insecure sexually, but politically & socially as well. Exerting power, to the point of abuse, over the female is the only way of restoring his "honor."

Sadly, a man there will blatantly kill a wife, daughter, or sister over the slightest infraction, real or perceived, yet he doesn't care about the knucklehead sons who, if they aren't robbing or living off the system, are blowing each other up.

I think that not only are the men there extremely egocentric, but that the religion breeds & attracts psychopaths. Hopefully, as the women there grow more educated, they might question things & leave.


13 posted on 01/18/2006 10:15:58 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: SmoothTalker; Aussie Dasher; Fred Nerks
"(It is) because Western societies do not veil their women. Because they do not defuse this potential danger," he said.

Rushdie is right on the nub -- the gangrapess in Australia remember that the accused when asked why he did it said: "These women were not vieled, hence they were free to take"
14 posted on 01/19/2006 12:38:19 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: darkocean

well, if they dressed like little boys, they would be happier.....


15 posted on 01/19/2006 12:38:57 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; jb6
Besides being screwed about screwing, what do they build in the Middle East? They build almost nothing! Since those ignorant terrorist beasts can't build anything, they go around destroying stuff.

What is sad is that when the Middle East was Christian or even Zoroastrian, it was a center of world civilisation. Now look at it...
16 posted on 01/19/2006 12:51:46 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Cronos


Doctors' sons who became rapists
November 28, 2003

They are the sons of a medical doctor and they are rapists. Lee Glendinning reports on two of four brothers found guilty of gang rape in attacks that upended the NSW legal system.

There was a moment when they nearly got away. Just before midnight a police van drove past East Hills railway station as the two girls walked along the road. The officers were finishing their shift but they turned the van around and stopped, thinking the girls might want a lift home. But the teenagers thanked them, said they were fine and walked on.

Waiting that night at the station for a black Nissan Skyline and a group of young men they had met the week before in George Street in the city, something made 17-year-old LS turn to 16-year-old HG and tell her to put the number 112 into her mobile phone memory. This was an emergency number, she said; it made you traceable.

Two hours later, after the pair had been taken to a house in Ashfield, they were attacked by four brothers and a friend. Forced into separate rooms, the girls were repeatedly raped at knife point, their attackers telling each that the other was dead.

It was the early hours of Sunday, July 28 last year and Sydney had been gripped for months by a series of trials of gang rapists in the south-western suburbs that had received widespread media coverage. Talkback radio had gone crazy over the expression "I'm going to f--- you Leb-style", the words one victim told the court were used during her assault.

Bilal Skaf's name was not yet known. He was a month from being sentenced to 55 years for his role in the gang rapes. But the workings of Skaf's mind had become etched into the public's imagination.

Brothers MSK, 25, and MAK, 23, knew all about the gang rapes, too. And that night, when they had finished with the girls, they warned against going to the police because they did not want what "happened in that other rape trial to happen to them". Later, once charged, they started to talk about the holes in Skaf's case, where Skaf went wrong. It would not happen to them, they said.

To these men, brotherhood was all. Nothing could come between fraternal bonds. It was more important than any perjury, any crime, any victim. They called wives and families as witnesses; court procedures meant nothing.

Bound by birth, culture and crime, each brother share the first name and surname. Only their middle names differ. The sons of a general practitioner, they came from Pakistan and lived in a house in Ashfield. It was here they took the school girls that night.

The two best friends were handed a Jim Beam and Coke. It was too strong. They did not like the taste. "Drink, drink!" MSK insisted. "Don't reject something when we give it to you." Another brother, MMK, told LS he was "horny" and asked if she would come to his room. She refused. MSK slapped her across the face with an open hand. She ran to the bathroom but MSK yelled "Get in the bedroom or I will kill you."

MRK walked into the room. LS grabbed him. This was the 17-year-old youth who was their friend, the one whom they knew better than the others. "Please help me. Help me get out," she begged. "Don't let this happen." He replied: "I am only new to the group. I can't tell them what to do. He's only drunk. Do what he says."

She ran to the window but it was barred. The oldest brother, MSK, walked into the room and forced her pants off. "I was screaming and crying and telling him not to do it but he just looked at me in the eye and started taking his pants off." He pushed LS into the corner of the bed and raped her three times.

MSK left and MAK walked into the room holding a knife. "Take off all your clothes or I'm going to kill you." He placed three gold bullets on the bedside table and then raped her.

HG had been forced into the other room when she tried to call 112. Another brother, MRK, grabbed the mobile. A call was recorded from her mobile at 2.18am.

read more...

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/27/1069825922999.html


17 posted on 01/19/2006 1:20:02 AM PST by Fred Nerks (UNDERSTAND EVIL; Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf link on my Page)
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To: Para-Ord.45

does it play in wales ? ;-)


18 posted on 01/19/2006 1:23:00 AM PST by globalheater (Brought to you from the axis where sheep wear lipstick)
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To: Cronos

The entire family were a bunch of liars. I saw them interviewed on TV. The daughter maintained the boys did not rape the girls. She said it wasn't rape because the girls invited it...

Sons were not home, says father of accused
By Lee Glendinning
November 20, 2003

It was the day a father came into bat for his two sons accused of rape, to tell the NSW Supreme Court he was home on the night that two teenage girls allege they were raped in the family home.

His sons, he said yesterday, were not there. He had stayed up until virtually sunrise, praying and meditating on a mat in the corridor, and none of the events described to the court over the last four weeks occurred that night.

The two brothers, known to the court as MSK, 25, and MAK, 23, are standing trial for their involvement in a gang rape at their home in Ashfield on July 27-28, last year...

read more:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/19/1069027191629.html?from=storyrhs


19 posted on 01/19/2006 1:26:09 AM PST by Fred Nerks (UNDERSTAND EVIL; Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD pdf link on my Page)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I think the lowest example for what you said are the taliban. Iran actually has very western style university - measured on arabic scales mind you.


20 posted on 01/19/2006 1:26:21 AM PST by globalheater (There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare - Sun Tzu)
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