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Sweating a sugar deal
Ag Weekly ^ | 1-17-2006 | Scott Kraus

Posted on 01/18/2006 3:44:25 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

TWIN FALLS, Idaho -- Sugar producer groups are still awaiting word on whether sugar will be part of a World Trade Organization deal to allow unrestricted access to U.S. markets by 50 least-developed countries, officials said.

The Office of the U.S. Trade Representative, which is leading the Doha round of WTO free-trade talks, is still considering what to exclude from the deal, said Jack Roney, director of economics and policy analysis for the American Sugar Alliance in Arlington, Va.

The United States adopted the proposal last month at the WTO ministerial conference in Hong Kong, where world agricultural subsidies were addressed. The deal calls for the United States to open all but 3 percent of its approximate 1,700 tariff line-items to duty-free and quota-free access to poor countries, he said.

“We’d prefer this is not in place at all,” Roney said.

But the alliance hopes sugar is ultimately included in the 3 percent of items that will remain off limits under the pact. If it isn’t, the alliance would probably have to oppose the trade deal if it went to Congress, he said.

“This is a serious threat,” he said.

That’s because the 50 least-developed countries produce a combined total of 3.3 million metric tons of sugar a year and export a total of 983,000 metric tons a year. If all that sugar came to the United States, it would lower market prices.

Jeff Henry, who grows sugar beets in the Eden-Hazelton area, said that would seriously damage U.S. sugar producers.

The U.S. program depends on the government regulating sugar sales to ensure adequate returns to producers, rather than paying subsidies, according to the Alliance. That much sugar coming into America duty-free would threaten the no-cost operation of the sugar program.

The issue is a major concern for producers, said Luther Markwart, executive vice president of the American Sugarbeet Growers Association in Washington, D.C.

Further, countries could work the system by selling all their homegrown sugar in the United States, then buying back the sugar they need from the “world market.”

That market consists of subsidized sugar from Europe and other countries, sold for standard prices in those countries, that exceeds their needs and is dumped for barely half the cost of production to save on storage costs.

But American negotiators recognize the deal is a major issue for sugar, said U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman at a Dec. 19 press conference in Hong Kong.

“We do have a program in place where we think duty-free access could create a problem, and that’s one reason we wanted to have some flexibility,” Portman said. “The other major issue I think would be textiles.”

Portman said negotiators believe they left enough space in the proposal to deal with any concerns in Congress. He said the United States hopes to wrap up the Doha round of WTO talks this year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Idaho; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: foodsecurity; freetrade; propertyrights; redistribution; robportman; sugar; wto
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Further, countries could work the system by selling all their homegrown sugar in the United States, then buying back the sugar they need from the “world market.”

They can destroy a US industry at the same time. If you are playing economic warfare, like China does, "free trade" is nothing less than a weapon to use against the US.
1 posted on 01/18/2006 3:44:27 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Nowhere Man

Sugar news.


2 posted on 01/18/2006 3:45:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm millions richer, thanks to the revolutionary "free trade" system--Jaing Zemin)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Toddsterpatriot

Better ping the Toddmeister too. B-P Well, I just did out of common courtesy of pinging becaue if mentioning a specific Freeper by name.


3 posted on 01/18/2006 3:48:09 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Michael Savage for President in 2008!!! He is our only hope!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

We might finally have soda pop that uses sugar again.

I'm all for it. There is no need to protect Big Sugar.


4 posted on 01/18/2006 3:49:20 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: hedgetrimmer

Give me a break Hedgetrimmer. Calling sugar beet growers an "industry" is besmirching the term industry. It's not viable without a huge albeit indirect subsidy paid by us all. Travel overseas a little bit and see how much better Coke is with sugar in case you have forgotten.


5 posted on 01/18/2006 4:08:26 PM PST by SERUM10
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To: hedgetrimmer

Since the elimination of the Sugar Act nearly 40 years ago, the price of sugar in the US has not decreased. Reduction of sugar production in the US over that period has not meant cheaper prices because of the professed cheaper "world market" prices. As it turns out, even relocation of candy manufacturing offshore ostensibly because of cheaper sugar, in reality, was to get away from expensive US labor laws and rules.
Bottom line, US sugar cannot compete with foreign sugar because of US laws, not because of direct production costs.


6 posted on 01/18/2006 4:10:29 PM PST by caisson71
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To: hedgetrimmer
They can destroy a US industry at the same time.

Sorry. The sugar industry in America is very heavily subsidized. We pay twice the world market price and slap 100% tariffs on the sugar we import to protect a handful of powerful sugar farmers.

7 posted on 01/18/2006 4:18:27 PM PST by DJtex (;)
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To: DJtex
We pay twice the world market price and slap 100% tariffs on the sugar we import to protect a handful of powerful sugar farmers.

But that's okay with hedgetrimmer. She doesn't care that US citizens get screwed for the benefit of a few farmers.

Sweet Deal, Bad Taste

8 posted on 01/18/2006 4:28:18 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Stop associating with Commies and we'll stop mentioning that you associate with Commies.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Corn syrup, which is used in place of real sugar, is a major factor in the obesity epidemic. We would not only have better-tasting soda if American sugar and corn-syrup barons lost their subsidy, but we'd be healthier too.

I say remove all subsidies and tariffs from sugar, and do it yesterday. I don't want to eat anything made with corn syrup ever again. Cheap sugar for all! Free the sugarcane!

-ccm

9 posted on 01/18/2006 4:37:26 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: caisson71

Give me a break.

If raw materials are 50% less and that is the vast majority of what a piece of candy is made of, labor is a minor cost.

Do you think each piece of taffy is handmade and formed?


10 posted on 01/18/2006 5:23:45 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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Corn syrup, which is used in place of real sugar, is a major factor in the obesity epidemic.

Since both corn syrup and sucrose are made up of glucose and fructose, how can High Fructose Corn Syrup be any more responsible for obesity than sucrose?

11 posted on 01/18/2006 8:31:59 PM PST by Mase
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To: Toddsterpatriot
doesn't care that US citizens get screwed for the benefit of a few farmers.

US citizens actually write the farm bill, not the WTO, which is the "free trader" way. And you "free traders" repeat over and over, its the "consumers" you care about, not citizens. We don't call you all "free traders" for nothing.
12 posted on 01/19/2006 8:44:59 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm millions richer, thanks to the revolutionary "free trade" system--Jaing Zemin)
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Foreign sugar producers are subsidized. According to the article, The U.S. program depends on the government regulating sugar sales to ensure adequate returns to producers, rather than paying subsidies,
13 posted on 01/19/2006 8:47:56 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm millions richer, thanks to the revolutionary "free trade" system--Jaing Zemin)
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To: hedgetrimmer
US citizens actually write the farm bill, not the WTO, which is the "free trader" way.

Hmmm...I don't remember being consulted on any farm bill that tripled the cost of sugar for American citizens.

And you "free traders" repeat over and over, its the "consumers" you care about, not citizens.

Wrong, I care about American citizens who consume sugar. Make up any new facts defending the sugar subsidies lately?

14 posted on 01/19/2006 8:51:26 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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The U.S. program depends on the government regulating sugar sales to ensure adequate returns to producers, rather than paying subsidies,

How exactly do these government mandated higher prices benefit US citizens again?

15 posted on 01/19/2006 8:58:55 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Go ahead. The 2007 farm bill is being written right now. Get going.


16 posted on 01/19/2006 9:01:45 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm millions richer, thanks to the revolutionary "free trade" system--Jaing Zemin)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Go ahead. The 2007 farm bill is being written right now. Get going.

You mean I should tell my Congressman that I don't like high priced sugar? What are you going to tell your Congressman? Will you ask for higher prices? For the farmers?

17 posted on 01/19/2006 9:04:12 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: hedgetrimmer
They can destroy a US industry at the same time. If you are playing economic warfare, like China does, "free trade" is nothing less than a weapon to use against the US.

Then it is deserved. If the industry refuses to change and remain competitive, then good riddance.

Protectionism and isolationism only cost consumers -- you and me -- more money.

18 posted on 01/19/2006 9:06:49 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Lower the price of sugar and you might have all the candy, gum and other businesses who went to Canada come back. Taxes COULD be lowered on all of us too, but I won't hold my breath.


19 posted on 01/19/2006 9:18:15 AM PST by Safetgiver (Noone spoke when the levee done broke, Blanco cried and Nagin lied.)
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To: TChris
If the industry refuses to change and remain competitive, then good riddance.

Its funny how "free traders" leave the important parts of their argument unsaid. Like If the industry refuses to change and remain competitive, with slave laborthen good riddance. is what you are really saying. Because the 'competitors' use slave labor.

In fact the Ag industry is changing all the time, mostly to survive the crushing regulatory burden placed on them. But you "free traders" daren't talk about that, because your goal is the destruction of key industries in the US, as made clear by the 'negotiations' at the Doha Round by the anti-US interests there.
20 posted on 01/19/2006 9:21:30 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm millions richer, thanks to the revolutionary "free trade" system--Jaing Zemin)
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