[Brilliant]

This guy ain't the Lamb, though. He only thinks he is.

[vimto]

"......the supposedly intransigent George Bush has actually been so accommodating to European sensibilities that he has delegated the policy on Iran to Europe. This has produced the current disaster....."

I really don't know what it is with us Europeans - we seem to have it in out psyche to believe that anyone and everyone is susceptible to reason. That everyone at base is a jolly good chap and if only dictators, and fascist mullahs would see sense everything would be OK.... If we are deluded like that (along with your dear Democrats) why trust us with Iran - it was always going to end in tears. Negotiate? Tea anyone?

[Cicero]

What can we do? There may be sanctions and other forms of isolation that would work.

Oh, my. Sanctions. That would certainly work.

Even better, how about more talk, which Europe is so good at? That would please everyone, at least until the nuclear bombs start going off.

[knews_hound]

Sanity from a Euro?

Wow, at least some of thm have it figured out.

Cheers,

knewshound

[Citizen Tom Paine]

With respect to Iran: I was wondering if all the statements about nuclear weapons from Iran is designed to keep the US from noticing what Iran is doing in Iraq. We are dealing with cunning devils and obvious moves may not be the ones which we need to watch.

Also, as an old Internet user, I clearly recall that Iran was supposed to have bought 4 land mobile ICBMs from the old Soviet Union when it dissolved together with the technicians to maintain and operate them. The CIA had pics if I recall properly. One can guess the targets for 4 ICBMs. Any recollections.

[Mike Darancette]

"Promised One". This was a reference to the strong Shi'ite belief in a Mahdi, or Hidden Messenger, who will reappear in the world to rule it aright.

I don't think the Muslim/Arab world will buy a Persian Mahdi.

If Mr Ahmadinejad can be packaged to Europe as a religious nut maybe they will do something.

[Cobra64]

Question to Europe:

Since Iran is in your back yard; why don't you clean up the dog poop?

[Dajjal]

Ahmadinejad is simply repeating the standard Shi'ite doctrine about the Mahdi appearing at the end of time to kill all the nonmuslims, convert the rest, and rule over the earth in a shar'ia utopia for a while until the final trumpets sound.

But he is not alone. For decades Muslims have been flooded with propaganda that these are the End Times. Certainly thousands, perhaps millions of them believe it.

It is extremely dangerous to mix nuclear weapons with the belief that there is NO FUTURE.

The Sunnis have their own version of the Mahdi: instead of being the 12th Shi'ite Imam, he will be a restorer of the Caliphate, who will spread Islam world-wide.

For more information on Muslim millennialism, see here.

[JasonC]

"an international conference designed to prove that the Holocaust never happened"

Now there's a thought - just think of all the nasty that will be concentrated in that place. Then think about the glories of the global positioning system...

[Dustbunny]

This was a reference to the strong Shi'ite belief in a Mahdi, or Hidden Messenger, who will reappear in the world to rule it aright.

This 'Hidden Messenger' could be the one that Christians are also waiting for, the 'AntiChrist'.

Certainly makes one wonder.

[JasonC]

"when we help their victims rise up against them, when the people themselves, not our tanks, take down the Berlin Wall."

This guy is not Gorby. When the people rose up against Chinese communism, they got crushed by tanks. When the people rose up against Saddam, like we asked them to, they got crushed by tanks. Tyrants don't rule because nobody challenges them. They rule because nobody takes away their physical means of slaughtering those who challenge them.

[Dustbunny]

Geeze, maybe Europe is attempting to emulate Nero with all the fiddling that is going on.

[Sunsong]

But the bigger question concerns the West's extraordinary indulgence (Mr Straw calls it "patience") towards the regime. Why don't we distinguish government from people and reach out to the latter? In the contest of the West with revolutionaries, we win in the end when we help their victims rise up against them, when the people themselves, not our tanks, take down the Berlin Wall.

That's the answer to Iran - encourage and support revolution from within. Let Europe worry about nukes - they're within range. If Paris gets hit - we'll have plenty of time and opportunity to retaliate.

[Salem]

One on the apocolyptic beliefs of that lunatic Ahmadinejad. Getting time for the Euroweenies to stand aside.

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