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Schwarzenegger's re - election chances up
The Argus ^ | Jan. 13, 2005 | Steve Geissinger

Posted on 01/13/2006 4:35:43 PM PST by FairOpinion

A recent poll shows the born-again "moderate" Republican governor has gained back some popularity, especially in the Bay Area, and is now in a dead heat with Democratic competitors.

"Our survey demonstrates that Schwarzenegger's retreat from the more conservative rhetoric and agenda he brandished during the latter part of 2005 has paid off among middle-of-the road voters," said Melinda Jackson, director of the Survey and Policy Research Institute at San Jose State University.

The governor's job performance rating among voters in a Democrat-leaning state has climbed from 36 percent positive and 53 percent negative in September, to 40 percent positive and 51 percent negative this month.

(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; arnoldpoll; cagop; calgov2006; california; camilk; popularity; republicrat; rino; schwarzenegger; sjsu; sjsupoll
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To: Hildy
Actually you'll find this characteristic in every state. Its not so much principles they're after, but seeking their fame and glory for themselves.
141 posted on 01/14/2006 8:40:22 AM PST by Kuksool
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To: fieldmarshaldj; FairOpinion; ninenot; sittnick; ElkGroveDan; EternalVigilance; onyx; sandyeggo

Maybe, Fair Opinion would be happier in Vermont or Greenwich Village or Paris!!!! No one but no one defends civilization in any of those places. Each is almost San Francisco!


142 posted on 01/14/2006 8:45:06 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Hildy

The 18 years I spent on the Central Committee the party wasn't anywhere close to the left wing garbage it is today.

Granted, the last year I was on the committee was 82 when my business load got so great that I had to terminate my political activity which was consuming at least 2 days a week not counting nights.

The total colapse was when Bush/Rove forced that leftist creep Parsky in.

There is no reason that the party can't be returned to it's conservative base, all that is necessary is to vote every RINO out of office.

Since every member of the Central Committee is either an elected Republican or one of their appointments it isn't that difficult to turn the party around.

In 1980 I proved without a doubt that the way to win the moderate vote is to campaign on a strict conservative platform.

I was talked into re registering at my office and run against Richard Alatore for the Assembly to trap his war chest in the district and not let it be spread among several districts where it could do severe damage. In a district that was mainly welfare class mexican and 74% democrat registration and running one of the highest profile democrats in the Assembly I received 39% of the vote with a 26% republican registration.

The moderate Republicans, also being mexican, in previous elections had never achieved more that 29% of the vote against him.

Thank heaven I didn't win, I never intended to, since at that time the pay was $36k/year and not only couldn't I live on that at that time but my business would have been destroyed.

I did scare the hell out of Alatore enough that when he was head of re apportionment the next year he took a 1 block wide 4 block long strip and put it out of his district and into Roos's district.


143 posted on 01/14/2006 8:53:52 AM PST by dalereed
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To: FairOpinion; ElkGroveDan; fieldmarshaldj

"F"O: Maria Schriver Schwarzenegger, is that you???? And how is Uncle Teddy????


144 posted on 01/14/2006 8:57:01 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: 68 grunt
I thought the ilk disavowed any of the damage done to Arnie?

Not from my perspective nor by my words. Conservatives frequently point out that the CAGOP brought this upon themselves but they never strayed from their principles, feigning ignorance to shield themselves from partisan loyalist's criticisms.

Conservatives have been at the forefront warning the Republicans faithful and hopefully the CAGOP leadership that they were committing political prostitution supporting a liberal to achieve victory. Conservatives repeatedly pointed out just how hollow that victory was.

To their credit some listened. Prop 76, a nasty deception, was roundly defeated by liberal and conservative alike. The CAGOP publicly chastised one of its own when he implied that they collectively supported Schwarzenegger. As Schwarzenegger's poll numbers fell, well beyond the capability of the Democrats alone, this lack of support from within his own party forced the Austrian to fall back to his core principles. First the Kennedy appointment and now the budget proposal is helping to unmask this pretender.

145 posted on 01/14/2006 9:08:46 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Clintonfatigued; ElkGroveDan; fieldmarshaldj
CF: Actually, if you think you are getting half a loaf, you are kidding yourself. However, suppose you are right. You might get half a loaf now, a quarter of a loaf four years from now, an eighth of a loaf four years later, a sixteenth....., a thirty-second....., a sixty-fourth.... Maybe there is a plan for victory in all this compromising leftward, but I am darned if I see it.

Also, note that McClintock got 45% in 2002 and, as things stand, you cannot expect Musclehead to do that well even with all of his heresies compared to McClintock's principled Republicanism.

We are not here to accept the inevitability of Marxist, lavender and baby-killing gummint. If we were, that would be a self-fulfilling prophecy posing as a strategy. We ARE here to fight and hammer the damnable Demonrats whenever they surface teir ugly heads, drive wedges among them and peel off their constituencies by using those wedges. It works nationally. It will work in California.

146 posted on 01/14/2006 9:09:36 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: FairOpinion
Right now, Arnold is the only electable candidate for Governor in either party. It's an amazing commentary on the state of California politics.
147 posted on 01/14/2006 9:10:29 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Hildy
They want all or nothing at all...and that's why they repeatedly get nothing at all.

Good point.

148 posted on 01/14/2006 9:15:43 AM PST by Alia
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To: doodlelady

Would you have voted for the limousine liberal "Republican" John Vliet Lindsay for mayor of New York City over socially conservative and fiscally conservative Democrat from the Archie Bunker neighborhoods Mario Proccacino and Conservative Party Bill Buckley????? Even if you knew Proccacino could win????


149 posted on 01/14/2006 9:18:40 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Amerigomag
They were part of a small but vocal group that exposed him and helped derail his liberal dreams.

WHAT? It was inaction on part of the Republicans that FORCED Arnold to turn to the left. You guys are so full of yourselves.

150 posted on 01/14/2006 9:18:48 AM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Yes, you are right. And I surmise that was the GOP point in Arnold support.


151 posted on 01/14/2006 9:19:05 AM PST by Alia
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To: FairOpinion

Sounds pretty bad. Move to Vermont.


152 posted on 01/14/2006 9:20:37 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: A CA Guy

"He sure screwed the pooch with a ton of Republicans/conservatives with his staying in the race as long as he did before. People will NEVER forget that.

I at this point don't even know if the man is mentally stable the way he stayed in that race before.
Sure he says the right things, but when he did what he did at the risk of getting Bustamante elected, he shows us he fails in the judgment arena."

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Thanks for your excellent analysis and summary of McClintock as a statewide candidate. I agree with you 100%.
I am bookmarking your post.


153 posted on 01/14/2006 9:21:49 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Amerigomag

This post of yours is best in show so far! Good for you!


154 posted on 01/14/2006 9:23:31 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Arnold is the only electable candidate for Governor in either party

If Schwarzenegger should abandon his partisan pretensions he would be king in California, falling only to the sword of term limits.

The prospect is frightening. Conservatives must double their efforts to undo his reign. For the good of California and in the best interests of the princiles that founded the Republican Party.

155 posted on 01/14/2006 9:23:51 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: A CA Guy

"Arnold tried to blow up the boxes, and the people failed him. It was not the other way around."

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Right again!

I am glad I came back to this thread to read your excellent, well reasoned, logical posts.

I am marking the thread, to be able to refer back to your posts.


156 posted on 01/14/2006 9:24:04 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Hildy
FORCED Arnold to turn to the left.

Seems contrary to facts. Even in Bullhead City some still remember Prop 49.

157 posted on 01/14/2006 9:30:48 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: 68 grunt; doodlelady; Carry_Okie; BlackElk; fieldmarshaldj

doodlelady: "Anyone on this forum who advocates voting dem is on the wrong forum."

68grunt: "Unless that is their ultimate goal ..."

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BINGO. Occasionally they even admit it, that while calling themselves conservatives their REAL agenda IS indeed to make sure Democrats stay in power in CA. They always have a good "rationale", but the bottom line IS that they want the Dems to stay in power, so then they can whine happily. Anyone who believes that a Dem would be more "conservative" than Arnold has lost touch with reality, or has as much understanding about the meaning of "conservative", as Bill Clinton has about the meaning of "is".


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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1435447/posts?page=22#22

Actually, I would prefer that Davis were still governor. We wouldn't be in as much debt because Republicans would not have let him borrow so much money. We wouldn't have a Sierra Nevada Conservancy. Davis would be so unpopular that the State would be far more ready to elect a conservative next year.
As it is, we'll either have Arnold for another four years or a Democrat now that the voters are getting sick of Arnold's ineffective duplicity. Either outcome drives the conservative base out of State.

As predicted.


22 posted on 07/02/2005 3:57:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness.")


158 posted on 01/14/2006 9:34:40 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Amerigomag

Keep rationalizing...I guess you have to since you choose to live there.


159 posted on 01/14/2006 9:35:48 AM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: dalereed

I commend you for your dedication...I just think it's a lost cause. More and more Republicans are leaving California...you know that. I'll be the first to eat my hat if what you're saying is correct. But I don't own a hat...that's how much I think you're wrong.


160 posted on 01/14/2006 9:38:22 AM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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