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PUTIN'S GAS BLUNDER
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| Jan 11, 2006
| Peter Rutland
Posted on 01/12/2006 7:57:12 AM PST by sergey1973
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To: Just mythoughts
You keep living in the past too. I will never forget back in the fifties when my family moved from Alabama to Kansas, and my grandmother cried and cried for days, because we were moving into Yankee territory. You ladies are sick.
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posted on
01/14/2006 4:31:23 AM PST
by
GarySpFc
(De Oppresso Liber)
To: GarySpFc
Not a very artful dodge.
N.Korea is not the past, it is today just as it was designed by old Stalin in the past. A very painful reminder to those who fought against the godless bloody system of communistic rule.
Putin sends horses to that mental Il for his birthday, I am not deceived by cheap claims.
To: Just mythoughts
North Korea and Vietnam are in the past, and you need to grow up and realize it. A Christian classmate from high school, Charles Plumb, spent almost 6 years in a NVA prison being tortured, and while there his wife divorced him. They taunted him every day with how his country and wife had deserted him. He forgave his prisoners. However, you ladies continue a fight that you were never personally involved in. I don't see how you have any right to call yourself a Christian.
http://www.charlieplumb.com/
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posted on
01/14/2006 5:04:24 AM PST
by
GarySpFc
(De Oppresso Liber)
To: GarySpFc
How do you know I have no personal involvement?
Where did some of those prisoners of war held in N.Korea get sent? You want to claim Christ yet I see no repentance.
Now to the very recent past, we are told not to climb into bed with the king of Babylon, and where oh were did we find the king putin, right there in bed stealing oil from the people of Iraq in that land of Babylon.
Christ came in the volume of the Book not just a few snips and quips here and there.
To: GarySpFc; Just mythoughts; Lurker
"It's typical of your hate filled mind to only see one side of an argument."
No - I appreciate Just Mythoughts and Lurkers sides, too!
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posted on
01/14/2006 5:19:57 AM PST
by
spanalot
To: spanalot
I appreciate you spanalot as well.
It really gets old reading post after post of the poor, poor Russian victim game. There is nobody upon God's green earth that does not get a finger pointed at for excuse for what Russian government has done or is doing.
Since the present is the only allowed topic let's view what lunacy is being bellowed out of Iran, and who is the big daddy that pave their nuclear threats, Christian HA.
I lived through Clintonism, where the clintons visited every pothole on this earth apologizing for the sins and promising reparations by Americans, nobody has done it better than these freaks.
Colonization somehow never got applied to communistic systems yet hardly an inch of soil has not been plundered by that bloody godless system and none of the perpetrates have yet been called upon to account for their dastardly deeds.
To: Just mythoughts
Russia does not control North Korea...PERIOD!
You live and breathe a global communist conspiracy theory, and everything has to fit within that box. You practice what we call isogesis, which means you read your views into Scripture, instead of drawing from it.
Repentance! You would not know repentance if it bit you in the rear. You judge Russia and have never been there. Your are a perfect example of the blind leading the blind. The Lord will judge His people, and judgment begins at the House of God.
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posted on
01/14/2006 5:40:32 AM PST
by
GarySpFc
(De Oppresso Liber)
To: GarySpFc
"Russia does not control North Korea...PERIOD!"
They did till they could no longer afford their upkeep historically speaking in 1994, wherein the Clintons adopted them off Boris.
"You live and breathe a global communist conspiracy theory, and everything has to fit within that box. You practice what we call isogesis, which means you read your views into Scripture, instead of drawing from it.
Repentance! You would not know repentance if it bit you in the rear. You judge Russia and have never been there. Your are a perfect example of the blind leading the blind. The Lord will judge His people, and judgment begins at the House of God."
Actually Christ spoke very clearly and did not assign the royal "we" to explain in character His words.
I speak to the system of governance not the good Christian people of Russia and there is a world of difference between the two.
Now providing Iran with the method and means of gaining what the leftists call respect 'nuclear' is upon Putin's shoulders, so what is he going to do about it.
So did Putin pay for the cost of building his new digs or was that a government cost.
Judgment of what? Zechariah 8:16 These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbor; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates:.....
Now the kind of judgment you are accusing me of is bogus as I have NOT judged any soul to hell, big difference in judgment of truth and peace and judging one's soul.
To: Just mythoughts
"communistic systems yet hardly an inch of soil has not been plundered by that bloody godless system and none of the perpetrates have yet been called upon to account for their dastardly deeds."
And besides the geopolitical front, there is the cultural war which lingers - antiwest, antifamily, etc
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posted on
01/14/2006 5:54:18 AM PST
by
spanalot
To: spanalot
"And besides the geopolitical front, there is the cultural war which lingers - antiwest, antifamily, etc "
Very true which is why I included Clintonism in the mix.
To: Lurker
Oh come one now. The Russians have a long and rich history of just 'doing things'.
Let's see there's Hungary and Czechoslovakia in '68.==
It was soviets not russians. Soviets was bunch of communists form many different nations including some russians too. But soviets were ukranians, jews, poles, baltics, and so on. Totally more then 120 nations and ethnic groups.
The Ukraine in the 20's and 30's. You know when you starve a couple million people to death the survivors tend to get a bit touchy about it.==
You know Russians didn't do that. It was done by Stalin order by ukranian communists who controlled Ukraine at that time. Neither was russians.
Same time Stalin created artaficial famine in russian populated regions.
Learn history of USSR please.
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posted on
01/14/2006 6:00:55 AM PST
by
RusIvan
("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
To: RusIvan
So there were no Russians among the troops sent to Hungary and Czechoslovakia in '68?
No Russians were involved in the 'Sovietization' of the Baltic countries?
No Russians were involved in the attempted takeover of Finland?
Please.....
L
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posted on
01/14/2006 6:45:35 AM PST
by
Lurker
(You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
To: Just mythoughts
Who started that Korean War? MacArthur provoked it to grow into a large war by advancing north towards the Chinese border at the Yalu River.
73
posted on
01/14/2006 6:58:28 AM PST
by
A. Pole
(Arnold Toynbee: "Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.")
To: A. Pole
"MacArthur provoked it to grow into a large war by advancing north towards the Chinese border at the Yalu River."
Oh please, MacArthur would have had not needed to advance anywhere had Stalin kept his agreement to rejoin the peninsula at the end of WWII.
To: Just mythoughts
Oh please, MacArthur would have had not needed to advance anywhere had Stalin kept his agreement to rejoin the peninsula at the end of WWII. Chicoms were issuing warnings about Yalu River trigger line. What was the benefit from MacArthur's decision to ignore these warnings?
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posted on
01/14/2006 7:23:27 AM PST
by
A. Pole
(NID: "Non-Indonesian Dutch")
To: A. Pole
"Chicoms were issuing warnings about Yalu River trigger line. What was the benefit from MacArthur's decision to ignore these warnings?"
The Chicoms had nothing in it until they made that secret pact with Stalin. The Chicoms would send the bodies while Stalin secretly provided air support.
Wonder does that pact of 1950 of Stalin and China still hold to this day??? I have not heard or read the agreement died when the USSR collapsed.
The war would not have happened if Stalin had kept his word.
To: Just mythoughts
The Chicoms had nothing in it until they made that secret pact with Stalin. They did issue the warnings. And it was ignored as a bluff.
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posted on
01/14/2006 7:33:30 AM PST
by
A. Pole
(NID: "Non-Indonesian Dutch")
To: A. Pole
"They did issue the warnings. And it was ignored as a bluff."
That piece of real estate is still howling a warning, most prominent monument on this earth of the legacy of communism. Land of darkness and starvation, not much to be cheering about now is it.
To: A. Pole
Oh I forgot to add, Clintonism gave them respect "nuclear".
To: Just mythoughts
That piece of real estate is still howling a warning Look at that from the strategic perspective - the northern part of Korean peninsula is the key land access to China (used before by Japan). It made perfect sense for Chicoms to attack advancing US troops. I say more, it was a strategic necessity at that time (it was a just after the victory of Communist revolution and the regime needed secure borders to solidify).
The only sensible reason for US advance toward Chinese border was to prepare war with Communist China. Very likely it was the real intent of MacArthur.
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posted on
01/14/2006 8:06:09 AM PST
by
A. Pole
(NID: "Non-Indonesian Dutch")
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