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Reports: Dozens Killed in Mecca Pilgrimmage Stampede
Fox News / AP ^ | 1/12/2006 | Unknown

Posted on 01/12/2006 5:00:58 AM PST by Coop

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To: Coop

Thanks for the AM laugh!


41 posted on 01/12/2006 6:47:21 AM PST by bayouranger (Hey muzzies...3ATME!)
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To: csvset

Still having trouble communicating directly with me, I see.


42 posted on 01/12/2006 6:48:39 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

Unless you have some previous history with CSVet, I don't see why you're so intent on badgering him.


43 posted on 01/12/2006 6:53:36 AM PST by LanPB01
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To: Coop
They're squashed together , sleeping in the streets, packed in tighter than sardines.

Many tragedies have befell the faithful on the Hajj, not so long ago the tent fires come to mind as well...

Sadly, it's come to almost to be expected as part of the ritual journey.

Muslim pilgrims gather at the Mount of Mercy (Jabal al-Rahma) in the plain of Arafat southeast of Mecca. Over two million Muslim pilgrims flocked after sunrise to the plain of Arafat southeast of Mecca to perform the central rite of hajj, the annual pilgrimage to the holy city.(AFP/Behrouz Mehri)

44 posted on 01/12/2006 7:00:36 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NearlyNormal

Road kill from the religion of peace.


45 posted on 01/12/2006 7:00:44 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: Coop

Another "Bad Day At Black Rock."


46 posted on 01/12/2006 7:03:12 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Coop; All
Stampede at Hajj in Mecca Kills 110 (Number dead expected to rise)

SALAH NASRAWI, Associated Press Writer

MECCA, Saudi Arabia - Thousands of Muslim pilgrims rushing to complete a symbolic stoning ritual on the last day of the hajj tripped over luggage Thursday, causing a crush. Medical officials said more than 110 people were killed and some 1,000 injured.

The stampede occurred as tens of thousands of pilgrims headed toward al-Jamarat, a series of three pillars representing the devil that the faithful pelt with stones to purge themselves of sin.

A member of an emergency team at the scene said at least 110 people were killed and that the number was likely to rise. The medical official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press.

More than 1,000 were injured, a doctor with the Saudi Red Crescent said. He told The Associated Press he had heard reports that up to 300 people may have been killed. The doctor was identified only by his nametag, Dr. Abbasi.

47 posted on 01/12/2006 7:16:33 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Coop

I side with you: innocent people dying is a shame.

But the more you badger people on here, the less sympathy I have for your position on this thread.

How did you get to the conclusion that these are innocent people? How are people throwing rocks at pillars, where people are trampled annually....how are these people innocent? They are responsible for their own actions. Same as the people that welcome government handouts are traitors to freedom, muslims that participate in a culture of death are culpable for the propagation of a culture of death which encourages the malignant islamists in their midst.


So there.


48 posted on 01/12/2006 7:19:20 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Coop
Now your baiting. You can't moderate the threads and bait people to disagree with you.

You got major probs man.

49 posted on 01/12/2006 7:23:28 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: NormsRevenge

Looks like a damn ant hill. Get the Amdro, quick.


50 posted on 01/12/2006 7:29:07 AM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Praise be to the LORD, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle.)
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To: Coop

"The stampede occurred as tens of thousands of pilgrims filed past al-Jamarat, a series of three pillars representing the devil.."

The Devil made them do it.


51 posted on 01/12/2006 7:32:55 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Coop

There is no legitimate connection between the majority of law-abiding American Hispanic-American citizens and the smugglers of illegal criminal alien invaders.

There is a direct connection between Islam and terrorism and violence against non-Muslims.


52 posted on 01/12/2006 7:35:25 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Fresh Wind

"Not sure if they get the virgins, though."

No, Only the ones who kill non-Muslims. These poor guys only get sloppy seconds. I always wondered what the women Jihaddist got? A giant selection of burquas and new whips to be used on them by their husbands in the afterlife?


53 posted on 01/12/2006 7:37:32 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: sam_paine

In the Judeau/Christian tradition we have abstract values. For instance, we value human life. So we would say, was the value of human life valued in the Hajj stampede? Since it was not valued then the stampede is a bad thing.

Islam is far simpler and fatalistic. Whole nother' ball of wax. There is only one important thing in Islam: Obeying Allah. Were the hajj pilgrims obeying Allah? Yes. Ok then, from an Islamic perspective, the fact that they all died is not important, nobody should think twice about it. They obeyed Allah and everything else is unimportant, from an Islamic perspective.

Islam is all about perfection having been achieved in the 8th century in the writings of a warlord named Mohammed and ignoring, or supressing with violence, all contrary and competing intellectual developments since. I would really like an actual muslim to tell me otherwise but they'll just ignore whatever I say and batter me with the same speech telling me how great Allah and Mohammed are instead. Islam is not intellectual, stop trying to reason with it.


54 posted on 01/12/2006 7:50:14 AM PST by Odyssey-x
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To: monday
"Muslims are different than us. They brag that they love death like westerners love life."

I've heard that too....second, third, umpteenth hand....so I can't swear to it. BUT, if true, and if it's true that death during the Hajj (sp?) is a free pass into Heaven, then it's perfectly logical that, despite all past history of death by crushing, they do nothing to minimize the deaths during the Hajj (sp?).

Through our Judeo-Christian Western eyes, it appears non-sensicial...absolutely nuts....even stupid....but through their eyes, if all the foregoing beliefs are true, why would they even attempt crowd control? Would they go so far as to praise "Allah" that Uncle Ish-ka-bibble was killed during the Hajj? I don't know.

This is just one instance where we see black, and they see white. This really is a clash of cultures...of civilizations....and until they adopt a live and let live philosophy....we must be constantly on guard.
55 posted on 01/12/2006 8:05:59 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Odyssey-x

Interesting points.......Thanks for the perspective.


56 posted on 01/12/2006 8:07:32 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Coop

George Bush and this administration did not have proper saftey procedures in place.


57 posted on 01/12/2006 8:08:32 AM PST by jw777
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To: Coop
Any similarities to the stampede at WalMart the day after Thanksgiving? At least nobody died in that stampede.

Just being flippant today.

58 posted on 01/12/2006 8:09:21 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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To: Alouette

I don't need to comment. You covered everything I was going to write.


59 posted on 01/12/2006 8:13:04 AM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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To: sam_paine
I side with you: innocent people dying is a shame.

I have to agree with you on this point. I have to believe that there are very few al-Qaeda here.

Of course, if I'm wrong about that, it would be a great target for a MOAB.

That comment should get me published on DU before the day's out.

60 posted on 01/12/2006 8:13:38 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Closing in on 3000 posts, of which maybe 50 were worthwhile!)
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