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Americans Find Being Fat Not Unattractive
Yahoo/AP ^ | 01/11/06 | CANDICE CHOI, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 01/11/2006 1:06:53 PM PST by misterrob

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To: dalereed

125 is the median for 65",
at 10 to 20 Percent above and you have 137 to 149 and that is NOT by medical standards obese.

We live in a frickin' brainwashed society where normal wimmen are damned and neurotic skeletons are put on pedestals.

No wonder prozac was invented.:)


181 posted on 01/11/2006 4:58:10 PM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: misterrob

Depends on what you call fat. I like some meat on the bones.


182 posted on 01/11/2006 4:59:50 PM PST by TankerKC (Who will hold the NYT accountable for knowingly releasing classified info?)
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To: najida

It's a plot by the gay male dominated fashion industry.


183 posted on 01/11/2006 5:00:36 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: najida



184 posted on 01/11/2006 5:03:47 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Beelzebubba

Thin, skinny, "Athletic" in the female form is a recent phenomenon in our culture.

Women are supposed to have a certain amount of body fat. We were made to have hips, a lower slightly rounded tummy etc. But now women with normal size hips are freaking out....even those in perfect shape... And heaven forbid if they don't have a sixpack!

Because we've make all women think they need to look like boys to be beautiful...., with hips that couldn't pass a pecan, much less a baby. The standard is so damningly narrow that 92% of the female population couldn't acheive it without surgery or starvation.

I was around when Twiggy came on the scene.

I remember when my first anorexic client.

I remember my first bulemic.

I have a patient who is addicted to exercise. I love her, but she only talks about how lean she is and how many miles she ran yesterday. I absolutely HATE being around her....and she's ripped. But totally vapid and pretty much...that's all she is...Suzie who ate so many grams of CHO and ran X miles.

Look, I've gotten real with my clients and patients....mostly I tell them that if some thinks they look fat, when they are healthy, fit and happy...to tell the jerk to 'eff off ;)


185 posted on 01/11/2006 5:06:30 PM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: cyborg; Petronski
It's a plot by the gay male dominated fashion industry.

Right. And that's part of the greater plot of the military industrial complex being a front for multi-national corporations whose sole purpose is to conspire against Michael Jackson's monkey.


This is a ch__ch. What's missing?

186 posted on 01/11/2006 5:09:56 PM PST by rdb3 (What it is is what it was.)
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To: Beelzebubba

OK,
You have your opinion about what is attractive. I'm on the front lines to see that standard liberalized to something way more normal and healthy.

Understand, for most women, it would destroy their health to reach the extremely narrow standard of 'beauty' that you put forth.

This is like foot binding. Just as damaging and in 100 years we'll look back and say "what the heck!?!?" I think these women are gorgeous.


187 posted on 01/11/2006 5:10:15 PM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: cyborg
It's a plot by the gay male dominated fashion industry.

Which just cracks me up when I see hetero, conservative males buying into the 'skinny hips are beautful' stuff. Hello! Look at some of these skinny models! They are boys with boobs! Even their arms are emaciated

These are often the same men who say 'Women should be stay at home moms and have lots of babies'... Erm, not if they don't have hips, they won't (or not easily, happily or frequently ;) )

188 posted on 01/11/2006 5:13:31 PM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: rdb3

Well, there is some substance in the correlation between the upsurge in gay male fashion designers and increasely boyish frames of runway models.


189 posted on 01/11/2006 5:15:02 PM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: timsbella

Funny, but if I have a client at a BMI of 19,
I have to write an emergency care plan because they're at high risk (which is often true) The irony never escapes me.


190 posted on 01/11/2006 5:17:03 PM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I love you too!


191 posted on 01/11/2006 5:17:59 PM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: Gordongekko909

There's a reason for the skeletor look; the fashion industry and hollywood trying to get men to want women who look like young boys.


192 posted on 01/11/2006 5:26:45 PM PST by kenth (Schrödinger's dog is both happy and sad.)
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To: najida

Give you a woman? I thought you WERE a woman!

;-)

I know what you meant!


193 posted on 01/11/2006 5:30:18 PM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: najida
>>You have your opinion about what is attractive.

I do, but the article is about what people in general find attractive, so my opinion is irrelevant. Then, I provided compelling proof in that businesses who make more money by displaying the bodies that more people find attractive are displaying lean, young, athletic bodies. They'd be out of business if they were wrong.

>>I'm on the front lines to see that standard liberalized to something way more normal and healthy.

You are never going to liberalize the fact that more men prefer something about like the typical college cheerleader. Not Twiggy. Not chubby. With curves, but not much fat.

>>Understand, for most women, it would destroy their health to reach the extremely narrow standard of 'beauty' that you put forth.

Don't be silly, those cheerleaders are pretty damn healthy. (And they stay that way with all the exercise.)

>>This is like foot binding.

Don't be ridiculous.

>>I think these women are gorgeous.

I don't think they are watching their figures in order to impress you.
194 posted on 01/11/2006 5:32:05 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: najida

Exactly. When I take a girl out to dinner, I'd rather see her order a steak than a salad!! Doesn't mean it has to be a 20 ounce steak though.

And another point, you don't have to eat rabbit food to be healthy. You can eat good, real food, as long as you eat in reasonable quantities!


195 posted on 01/11/2006 5:34:37 PM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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To: Beelzebubba

All I'm saying is that women who are living longer and longer lives, and are still vital until well past menopause should not be held up to the standard of 18 year old cheerleaders. And yes, 100 years ago, the world had a healthier view of what made a woman...well, a woman. So that is the narrowness of the view. You're only in that time frame of imagined 'perfection' for a brief moment.

BTW, I've known lots of puking cheerleaders....in fact, I think you'd be surprised at the real reason they use Altoids. Believe me, from my side of the stand, I'd rather see happier, rounder women and less Syrup of Ipecac.


196 posted on 01/11/2006 5:37:54 PM PST by najida (When I'm good, I'm very very good, and when I'm bad, things get broken.)
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To: Gordongekko909

Other of yesterday's hot women that today's aneorexic loving culture mavens might call "overweight" are Jayne Mansefield, Sophia Loren, Ava Gardner, Sheree North, Lana Turner, Liz Taylor, Lena Horne, Linda Christian, Gloria Grahame, Mamie Van Doren, Bettie Page and Mae West.

Obviously, one thing that all these women have in common is the blessing of an abundance of womanly curves. And that is PRECISELY why they are condemned as overweight today. The culture is heavily influenced by the taste setting trends of homosexuals (particularly in the fashion industry) who today can be more open about women who look like they have the figures of adolescent boys.


197 posted on 01/11/2006 5:44:18 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: misterrob
Barbara Brickner has replaced Winona Ryder and Madchen Amick as my choice for the most beautiful woman alive:


198 posted on 01/11/2006 5:48:22 PM PST by RightWingAtheist ("Why thank you Mr.Obama, I'm proud to be a Darwinist!")
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To: DMZFrank
I likes me some curves. Lookin' at 'em makes me feel all GOOOOOOOD.

I advise Image Googling "Vida Guerra."

199 posted on 01/11/2006 5:51:44 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Beelzebubba
The body type that men tend to be attracted to is not due to eating disorders. Think youthful, athletic, and lean.

Not DUE to it, no. However, the push for young girls to have a "perfect" body (which is all relative) can be a contributing factor to eating disorders.

200 posted on 01/11/2006 6:00:15 PM PST by RockinRight ("It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc" - Coulter)
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