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Bush forces Hamas down Israel’s throat in Jerusalem. Olmert government is stunned
DEBKAfile Exclusive ^
| January 9, 2006, 11:53 PM (GMT+02:00)
Posted on 01/09/2006 7:46:28 PM PST by strategofr
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To: Sabramerican; Txsleuth
According to
CNN,
AP Jewish Week, and
President Carter they voted by absentee ballot, completed and mailed from post offices in East Jerusalem.
Putting those two reports together, to the Palestinians and the State Department, there will defacto polling places in Jerusalem. If a Palestinian mailed a ballot from New York, that’s probably their territory too.
I'm fairly certain they could have presented themselves at polling places in the West Bank as well.
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posted on
01/09/2006 8:41:46 PM PST
by
SJackson
(Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
To: William Creel
Interesting comment from someone who posts this on his homepage:
Every individual life is special, we don't know what someone is going to grow up to be if we end their life before it began. Imagine if someone aborted Albert Einstein, we would have lost all of the stuff he theorized. Just because the mother made a bad decision, and had a baby when she wasn't ready, shouldn't mean that the child should suffer. It was her choice, she should live with it. I'm ok if they put the child up for adoption, but they should be forced to live with what they did.
To: NYTexan
"I believe Israel should refuse American foreign aid." ...They would already be wiped off the map without it!!! Had you said the Czechs, as Soviet clients, or France, there'd be some truth to your statement. Nixon's support in the 73 war was vital.
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posted on
01/09/2006 8:43:50 PM PST
by
SJackson
(Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
To: NYTexan
"They would already be wiped off the map without it!!!"
After the ruse about our USA withdrawing military tech. support to Israel, Israelis successfully test fired their Arrow-2 system. You see, Arrow-2 was mostly Israel's R&D baby all along--not ours.
Granted, though, if our leaders continue to fund (illegally) and otherwise support the Jihad against Israel, Israelis might have to clean up a lot of virtually benign junk after nuking the cities of much of the rest of the Middle East before occupying much of it.
That's alright, though. We'll need more room over there for the millions of new converts to Judaism.
44
posted on
01/09/2006 8:45:05 PM PST
by
familyop
("The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews." --President John Adams)
Comment #45 Removed by Moderator
To: Baraonda
The Lord said to Abram, "Go from your land, from your birthplace, and from your father’s house, to the land that I will show you. I will make you into a great nation, I will bless you and make your name great; and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and he who curses you, I will curse; and through you will be blessed all the families of the earth."
Genesis 12:3
Lets hope that Debka is wrong.
46
posted on
01/09/2006 8:54:35 PM PST
by
Halgr
(Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
To: Sabramerican
"Although no final Israeli government decision has been made, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom told the cabinet Sunday that Israel's message "is that east Jerusalem residents would be able to vote, but not in east Jerusalem, rather in areas close to their homes," an apparent reference to areas like Abu Dis and Eizariya."
'snip'
"Only a few hundred Arab residents of Jerusalem have registered as voters for the upcoming elections, PA officials revealed on Monday. "
'snip'
"The "Jerusalem district,", which includes Abu Dis, A-Ram, Bir Nabala, Hizma and Kalandiya, has a total population of 323,837. About 70 percent live inside the city's municipal boundaries and hold Israeli ID cards."
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If they are Israeli citizens why are they voting in the Palistinian elections. They should 'elect' which citizenship they want.
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:01:18 PM PST
by
dervish
(prayers for PM Sharon)
To: Sabramerican
I have no doubt that there's a good reason why Bush made this decision. He is not doing this because of contempt for Israel. Bush has been a great friend of Israel throughout his entire time as POTUS.
48
posted on
01/09/2006 9:05:54 PM PST
by
defenderSD
(¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
To: NYTexan; Alouette
What Alouette said.
And if that were so they would take many others down with them.
49
posted on
01/09/2006 9:08:26 PM PST
by
dervish
(prayers for PM Sharon)
To: William Creel
>>>
How many times did they report that Osama was dead?<< And now it appears they are right. Osama is thought to have reached Iranian room temperature in December.
And on an historical basis, Debka has been reasonably accurate when it concerns internal Israeli affairs.
To: HardStarboard
Ah, yes, we haven't had one of thsese Bush-bashing anti-American Middle East threads in quite a while.
51
posted on
01/09/2006 9:30:27 PM PST
by
Bushbacker
(f----u)
To: Alouette; NYTexan
>>>
Israel did not receive American foreign aid until the 1970's. <<< I am against interrupting aid to Israel - particularly at this critical time.
The point is well made that they did pretty well without "overt" US aid money prior to 1973. However, there was always a large amount of money flowing to Israel from the Jewish community in the US prior to that time.
Bottom line, the US cannot afford to lose Israel as a base of democracy....or a base of intelligence in the Middle East....we must support her, particularly during the current leadership crisis and in view of the Iranian threat.
To: RedRover
Is there a possibility that reverse logic is being used in this and other situations regarding Israel?
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:31:55 PM PST
by
NY Attitude
(You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
To: Bushbacker
>>>
Ah, yes, we haven't had one of thsese Bush-bashing anti-American Middle East threads in quite a while.<<< And your point is......?
Israel's existance is essential to any sane political or military plan for the Middle East....I think Bush realizes this fact, but sometimes administration micro-strategy is obtuse.
To: Sabramerican
If you don't think Arabs in East Jerusalem should be able to vote in Palestinian elections, then I must assume you favor their being able to vote in Israeli elections. Otherwise, we have a case of disenfranchisement.
55
posted on
01/09/2006 10:00:22 PM PST
by
Torie
To: William Creel
Universal qualifiers tend to get one in trouble. It's not "all" of the Palestinians, but 97% of them give the other 3% a bad name.
56
posted on
01/09/2006 10:03:47 PM PST
by
308MBR
(After over 20 years of GOP only, I'm voting a split ticket in 'O6 and hoping for gridlock.)
To: Sabramerican
If Rice is so stupid as to facilitate no election in the West Bank and Gaza, then I must agree with you about her. There must be an election, and as I said, it might not be all bad if Hamas one it. Then the responsibility and onus of government and running it, would be on them, and what they allow, or espouse, cutting off at the knees any fig leaf of plausible deniability.
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posted on
01/09/2006 10:03:57 PM PST
by
Torie
To: Nam Vet
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posted on
01/09/2006 11:21:49 PM PST
by
familyop
("The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews." --President John Adams)
To: Alouette
Things are getting stranger by the minute..
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posted on
01/09/2006 11:25:00 PM PST
by
sheik yerbouty
( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
To: William Creel
You know that DEBKA isn't too reliable.They seem very reliable here. Do you want to bet against this article?
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posted on
01/10/2006 3:29:42 AM PST
by
dennisw
("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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