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Ariz. mine closure throws Indians out of work
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 1/1/2006 | John M. Broder

Posted on 01/01/2006 12:28:36 PM PST by bkwells

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To: Arizona Carolyn
Right now there is concern about a plume of hexavalent chromium PG&E dumped close to the Colorado River in Topoc a long time ago -- it's leached through the sand and under the river;

Wow! I used to frequent that part of the river (Topock, Needles) quite a bit since the early 70's through the mid 90's. When did they do that?

41 posted on 01/01/2006 3:54:16 PM PST by kstewskis ("Go to your room!"....Dan Rowan to Dick Martin)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
this is an issue close to home for me because these same enviro-whackos are trying to make Lake Powell (Glen Canyon) a National Park vs a National Recreation Area -- if this happens it's the deal knell for this tribe who just finished construction on a very high class marina on the Lake --

Great. I remember when they just broke ground at that marina, I bet it is nice. I hope the Navajo's kick their collective butts in court on that matter.

I hadn't heard the latest...have the environazi's given up on draining Powell yet? Have they failed in that respect, and now concentrating on the "Recreation" vs. "Park" issue now?

42 posted on 01/01/2006 4:05:26 PM PST by kstewskis ("Go to your room!"....Dan Rowan to Dick Martin)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

***The Indians will always live under those conditions until we, and they, get serious and flush the goofy notions of "sovereign nations" and reservations. Businesses will never move into these places as long as they are going to be forced to deal with corrupt tribal governments.***

Remember what happened to the Fairchild plant in Gallup back in 1975?


43 posted on 01/01/2006 4:50:52 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: bkwells

***"This income is the only thing I have," Cody said. "There is no power line to my house, no phone line, no running water. Everybody else has everything at the tip of their hands." ***

But, but, Indians I have known have been crying about wanting to go back and live as their ancestors did!
Here is her chance!


44 posted on 01/01/2006 4:53:06 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Mike Darancette

They live in Gods Country for sure and their leaders and our laws hold them back generation after generation. You want a new car? Buy a refrigerator, washing machine, etc., and then we'll give you money for a new car -- but don't worry that you don't have electricity to run the refrigerator or washing machine -- just place it in your front yard and let it rust. Socialism at it's best.


45 posted on 01/01/2006 6:59:37 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: webboy45
There is a second coal plant. In Page. Navajo Generating Plant -- that plant (operated by SRP instead of SCE) spent the money on scrubbers. They get their coal via electric cars from the Reservation, but from a different mining operation on the reservation.

As a matter of fact a famous (don't ask me his name) photographer stopped a cold, snowy day to photograph the plant in Page and was surrounded by FBI (post 911) demanding his cameras -- agreed to erase the photos (but didn't format the hard drive) and was let go with the camera....

Long story short, the guy sold one of the photos to Al Gore who uses the photos in his Global Warming literature -- had nothing to do with Global Warming -- was a cold, snowy, day and the steam from the plant (in black and white) looked like they were polluting.

46 posted on 01/01/2006 7:03:52 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Can't happen. The idiot Navajo chief just got back from a vacation with his "first lady" in Oslo, Norway where the envirowackos presented them with a plaque for declaring "the rez" a nuclear-free zone.

Obviously you've never heard the term "Indian Giver". ;-)

47 posted on 01/01/2006 7:07:45 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Everyone on this end of the river gets nervous these days about pollution. Right now Las Vegas wants to put their effluent back into Mead and then into the river... sounds harmless enough until you see test results that find all the drugs people pee out isn't being filtered in the cleaning of the effluent and more and more fish are starting to show the results... I would never touch fish out of Mead or any of our lakes below Mead. I would rather see the effluent used to water their gold courses, lawns, etc... and keep it out of the lake(s).


48 posted on 01/01/2006 7:08:09 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: uglybiker

I hope not. A "R" doesn't stand a chance in Flagstaff and more libs are moving into the area from California looking for our cheaper AZ taxes.


49 posted on 01/01/2006 7:09:10 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: brushcop

I have a friend who teaches on the Reservation. She can tell stories that makes you hair stand on end.... like they encourage theft from white people, lying to white people, etc... racism is alive and well on the Navajo Reservation, which is a shame... and I agree, we should have never agreed to a reservation system for Native American's, the only cure is assimilation.


50 posted on 01/01/2006 7:11:38 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: kstewskis

Evidentally quite a while ago.. closed down their plant in the area and dumped into the sand and left, don't know what they thought would come of the effluent. ADEQ has a site to track the cleanup effort.


51 posted on 01/01/2006 7:12:47 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: kstewskis
I dont' know if they've given up on draining the lake and are being very closed-mouthed about their new push to make it a National Park -- look at the new issue of Backpackers Magazine --

Unfortunately the majority of people hearing this will say: GREAT make it a National Park and never look at the ramifications of such..... but once you look at Yellowstone and other National Parks with Lakes you see what they have in mind.

They lost the push through the Bluewater Network to run jet skis off all the lake (now I hate the noise of jet ski's but next would be boats) so now they are trying a new back door approach and claim they have the Navajo on board in their quest.

I find that strange because their new Marina is very, very, classy, but then there is this medicine man who is literally in bed with the enviro's and wants the White Man off the lake and away from Navajo Mountain and Rainbow Bridge, so anything is possible.

The bad thing is the enviro's are backed by the likes of Robert Kennedy's Waterkeepers Alliance (follow the dots from the Board of Directors for Glen Canyon Institute and Living Rivers) and with the 501c3's have unlimited time to keep after this, the rest of us have to work for a living.

It only takes one person to make a motion to make it a National Park and heaven knows how some of the Senators downstream would vote (Feinstein, Boxer, McCain)... and the Eastern Senators would be clueless... so it is a worry.

52 posted on 01/01/2006 7:20:46 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I will check out that latest issue.

Thanks for the informative post, and Happy New Year to you, Carolyn!

53 posted on 01/01/2006 8:12:26 PM PST by kstewskis ("Go to your room!"....Dan Rowan to Dick Martin)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Right on! I agree 100%.


54 posted on 01/01/2006 10:03:55 PM PST by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Prescott and the Verde Valley are more than enough to offset Flagstaff.


55 posted on 01/02/2006 4:01:50 AM PST by uglybiker (Iraqis have purple on their fingers. Liberals have brown on their thumbs.)
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To: uglybiker

I certainly hope so... a lot of Californian's have been moving there... if from Orange and San Bernardino County then more likely to vote "R"... I know my uncle just moved to Prescott and is amazed at the lower car insurance and electricity compared to Cypress, where he moved from.


56 posted on 01/02/2006 8:44:46 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: kstewskis
Here is an article in ePress this morning on the subject -- thought you would find it informative:

PG&E Outlines Chromium Cleanup

by Paul LaVoie, TSN

TOPOCK, AZ - Pacific Gas & Electric is correcting its handling practices of a cancer-causing causing compound it released near the Colorado River over 50 years ago. The utility is proposing to decontaminate an aquifer found to contain high levels of chromium-6 near it's compressor station in California located a half-mile southwest of the town of Topock on I-40.

In its most recent report, the California Regional Water Quality Control Board found that from 1951 to 1964, PG&E discharged untreated wastewater containing hexavalent chromium from a compressor station cooling tower to "percolation beds" in Bat Cave Wash, a stream bed that empties into the Colorado River. An aquifer of chromium-6 contaminated groundwater has since accumulated near the river, and in 2004 PG&E began pumping the contaminated water and transporting it to a hazardous waste handler. The plan for disposal of carcinogenic waste water is complicated, but poses little or no threat to the environment. PG&E will drill a series of wells both in and around the aquifer.

Three of the "injection wells" will each hold 6,000 gallons of a food-grade, sodium lactate solution designed to reduce the chromium-6 contamination to a non-hazardous chromium-3 state.

The California Regional Water Quality Control Board's complete findings can be found online, and include a site map of the contaminated area. The board will consider the revised proposal in a public hearing on January 18th at 10:00am, at the regional offices located in Palm Desert, California.

Additionally, the findings noted the PG&E disposal plan could affect the way future chromium-6 contaminations are handled, depending on the results at the Topock compressor station.

57 posted on 01/02/2006 8:47:54 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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