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Muslim retreat sparks threats
sptimes ^ | 12/31/05 | S.I. ROSENBAUM

Posted on 12/31/2005 12:13:58 PM PST by Pikamax

Muslim retreat sparks threats A retreat for young Muslims was to be held at a Presbyterian camp, until a blogger alleged a speaker was linked to al-Qaida. By S.I. ROSENBAUM Published December 31, 2005

LITHIA - Death threats have closed a church camp where a Muslim youth retreat was planned this weekend, after an Internet blogger alleged that a scheduled speaker was linked to al-Qaida. Mohamed Moharram, president of the Muslim American Society of Tampa, said the three-day event at Presbyterian Cedarkirk Camp and Conference Center was supposed to teach young Muslims leadership skills as well as the core tenets of Islam.

Then, four days ago, the threatening phone calls and e-mails began.

"We got threats to be burned, to be destroyed," he said. "It's appalling."

The Rev. Debbie Bronkema, Cedarkirk's director, said she also received threats.

Some were severe enough that she called the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office and the FBI, and decided to close the center for the weekend.

On Friday, Moharram said the retreat would go forward at an alternate site. But he wouldn't give the address, citing security concerns. The retreat is for about 50 young adults, ages 18 and up, organizers said. Cedarkirk Camp is a conference center in a nature setting in rural eastern Hillsborough County.

What sparked the threats?

Apparently, articles about the upcoming retreat began to appear on right-wing blogs around Christmas, including americansagainsthate.com and frontpagemag.com. The most-linked blog article alleged that one of the scheduled speakers, Mazen Mokhtar of New Jersey, had ties to al-Qaida. Other bloggers picked up the theme.

"Nothing rings in the new year like bringing your kids to hang out with a bunch of terrorists," one blogger wrote on a site called Ace of Trump.

Another posted an obviously doctored photo showing a masked terrorist standing in front of the Cedarkirk sign.

On Thursday, blogger Joe Kaufman appeared on Fox News' show Your World with Neil Cavuto to talk about the retreat.

On the air, Kaufman said that Mokhtar had run a Web site to recruit al-Qaida fighters.

"I don't believe this person should be teaching any children," he said. "This person should be behind bars in shackles."

In fact, federal agents searched Mokhtar's New Jersey home in 2004, after a man in London was arrested for using a Web site to fund terrorist groups.

An identical Web site was registered under Mokhtar's name. But he was never arrested.

On Friday, Mokhtar, a computer programmer, said he ran a business selling server space to host Web sites. He never knew what was contained on the site in question, he said.

On his Fox News program, Cavuto also read what he said was a quote from Mokhtar: "Suicide bombing should be encouraged because it's an effective way of attacking the enemy."

Although Cavuto did not say where the quote was from, a 1996 post on the online discussion forum Usenet, signed with Mokhtar's name, contains the words "effective method of attacking the enemy" in a discussion of whether suicide bombing is prohibited by Islamic law.

Mokhtar said Friday that he did not remember writing those words.

"It is not my position now nor has it ever been my position that a Muslim should ever attack an innocent person," he said.

He said he was frustrated at having to proclaim his innocence.

"It's really, really sad that I have to keep repeating this," he said.

"The fact that people flew planes into buildings in New York has nothing to do with me. I wasn't one of them. I don't belong to that school of thought."

The Rev. Bronkema said that when the allegations against Mokhtar surfaced, she called the FBI and the Sheriff's Office to ask if she should cancel the retreat.

"They informed us that there was nothing about the scheduled speakers or this group that should cause us to not allow (them) to come on retreat," she said.

"That was before the threats," she added.

After receiving threats, the contents of which she would not specify, she called the FBI and the Sheriff's Office again - this time to file a complaint.

Meanwhile, Moharram said, he tried to explain to each angry caller that his organization was nonviolent. He also responded to every abusive e-mail, he said.

"I'm exhausted," he said Friday. "I took calls until midnight last night, replying to e-mails: "What are you guys doing? This is totally a mistake. This is totally out of context."'

With one caller, he said, "I told him we are trying to help the government and the U.S. citizens, the average people, to keep them from witnessing another disaster like what happened in 9/11.

"We're teaching the youth and the young kids the real Islam, the true Islam. Not the extremist Islam."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jihadretreat; muslimamericans; pcusa; presbyterian; presbyterians; taqqiya; terrorism; terrorist
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1 posted on 12/31/2005 12:13:59 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Oh, okay. He's teaching the real Islam, the peaceful Islam, which will help the US avoid another 9/11. Why does that sound cockamamie?


2 posted on 12/31/2005 12:17:52 PM PST by hershey
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To: Pikamax

Of course, if we actually read the article and not just the first paragraph, we discover that the speaker is the scumbag that the "right wing websites" made him out to be.
Taken out of context my ass.


3 posted on 12/31/2005 12:21:31 PM PST by ClaudiusI
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To: hershey

Key sentence: ""It is not my position now nor has it ever been my position that a Muslim should ever attack an innocent person," Depends on your definition of innocent.


4 posted on 12/31/2005 12:25:27 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Pikamax
Mokhtar said Friday that he did not remember writing those words.

"It is not my position now nor has it ever been my position that a Muslim should ever attack an innocent person," he said.

I guess it depends on your definition of "innocent"...
5 posted on 12/31/2005 12:26:44 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

exactly!


6 posted on 12/31/2005 12:27:33 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Pikamax

Take a look at his comment:

"It is not my position now nor has it ever been my position that a Muslim should ever attack an innocent person,"

Since all "infidels" are guilty, I guess teaching to kill them is ok.

Wonder if they are learning bomb-making and punishment gang rape at this camp?


7 posted on 12/31/2005 12:28:54 PM PST by Vasilli22 (http://www.richardfest.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pikamax

Just the headline alone, calls up a strange picture.

Imagine, if you will, the line of Muslim jihadists facing overwhelming odds, and in a fit of self-preservation, they are actually vacating strategic positions as they become untenable. But in a last act of defiance, they leave loud threats and shout profanities as they gather their possessions in preparation of seeking shelter in a more amicable setting.


8 posted on 12/31/2005 12:29:12 PM PST by alloysteel (There is no substitute for success. None. Nobody remembers who was in second place.)
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To: Pikamax
Click Here! Trust Me! It's Good.

9 posted on 12/31/2005 12:33:21 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Pikamax
"It is not my position now nor has it ever been my position that a Muslim should ever attack an innocent person."

Sorry bub. Your dealing with angry non muslims that don't trust any muslims because of the reason Islam has proved to be an enemy of other religions, peoples and freedom.
10 posted on 12/31/2005 12:37:21 PM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: Pikamax

It is an ironclad rule that when they do something evil, Leftists and their allies always, always, always claim to receive death threats. Ironclad Rule 2, these claims are never documented or verified. Ironclad rule #3, the Presstitutes always hasten to write a front-page editorial to "report" the "threats" as "news."


11 posted on 12/31/2005 12:42:14 PM PST by T'wit (People who strip naked and do something bizarre, as a group, in front of cameras, are liberals.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
I guess it depends on your definition of "innocent"...

Christians and Jews, of course, never are innocent.

12 posted on 12/31/2005 12:44:10 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Just what has he done to help us win this war, as opposed to sitting back and hoping maybe the other side wins?


13 posted on 12/31/2005 12:48:30 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: AmericanVictory

When I read the sentence that I mentioned above, and the "fact" that he doesn't remember writing some stuff attributed to him, I knew he was BOGUS! Oh, wait! I'm Bogus!


14 posted on 12/31/2005 12:53:33 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Pikamax

He says he does not remember writing those words. He says he is being taken out of context.

These are not denials.


15 posted on 12/31/2005 12:57:54 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: Pikamax

"It is not my position now nor has it ever been my position that a Muslim should ever attack an innocent person,"

Well that clears everything up doesn't it? He obviously believes a Muslim should attack a guilty person. The only question remaining is who determines the guilt.


16 posted on 12/31/2005 1:01:51 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: Pikamax

The organizer of the "event" is a liar. "Moderate islam" my a&&. Look at the quotes from his featured speaker:

• On several occasions, Mazen Mokhtar has used the Internet to post extremist
newsgroup messages that have included calls to religiously-inspired violence:
o “Covenant Of The Islamic Resistance Movement [Hamas]… I have read the
covenant, I support the covenant.” (February 1993)
o “Hamas has no victims, it only has legitimate targets.” (E-mail signature used by
Mazen Mokhtar)
o The nations of the Arab world are divided “[b]ecause they are run by corrupte
[sic], unIslamic, oppressive, power-hungry, murderous secularists. They were
installed by colonial powers for the purpose of keeping the Muslims divided.
The only force which is actively combatting them is Islam.” (October 1996)
o Suicide bombing should be encouraged “[b]ecause it's an effective method of
attacking the ennemy [sic] and continuing jihad, which is at the very least a
[religious requirement] on the Muslims… Those who commit suicide seek death,
but martyrs are not counted as dead, as Allah said above. They seek a greater
life for themselves with Allah, and a greater future for Muslims. May Allah
support them, bless them and forgive us for not being with them.” (April 1996)


17 posted on 12/31/2005 1:28:38 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Never Never Never Give Up!!!)
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To: Hypervigilant

Well, that sorta defines "innocent."


18 posted on 12/31/2005 1:40:40 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; Calpernia; Velveeta; LucyT

Ping


19 posted on 12/31/2005 2:05:28 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Socialist=communist,elected to office,paid with your taxes: http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp)
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To: Pikamax
"We got threats to be burned, to be destroyed," he said. "It's appalling."

If he thinks these "threats" are appalling, wait until he sees what happens to him and his Islamic buddies in this country after the next 9/11 style attack.

20 posted on 12/31/2005 2:26:19 PM PST by Gritty ("Americans cannot escape the final showdown with Islam" - Barbara Stock)
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