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To: Spiff
"...let me say that the Nazis however egregious their crimes and their evil are responsible for less death and destruction than the so-called "African values" celebrated by Kwanzaa that have existed and do exist today in Africa..."

I see that you have both sides of your mouth going again.

Now, you want to tie the celebration of African heritage with Africe.

Hypocrite.

I read the tenants of Kwanzaa, and I understand, as do all people with any level of intelligence understand, just what a gigantic bigot you are.

You are pounding your "the founder of Kwanzaa" drum still?

You insist on visiting his sins on others?

Bigot.

Now you try to excuse off the fact that YOU accept some made up Holidays, and you don't accept absurd comparisons unless YOU make those absurd comparisons yourself?

Hypocrite.

Who cares who invented the Holiday?

The peopl celebrating it are not celebrating either his birth, or his beliefs.

They are celebrating their own sense of heritage...wh8ich is what truly bothers you.

Bigot.

I participate in the Kwanzaa threads precisely because I am against the inherant racism and other detestable aspects of Kwanzaa, its founder, and its intent."

The typical response of the rabid bigot.

How others celebrate their heritage is none of your concern.

Bigot.

196 posted on 12/30/2005 2:12:50 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
They are celebrating their own sense of heritage...wh8ich is what truly bothers you.

You don't get it. It is NOT their heritage. It is NOT African heritage no matter how it tries to be African heritage. It is a FALSE heritage dressed up in pseudo-African garb and language designed specifically to lull the gullible into accepting racist black nationalist and Marxist ideas. It is PURELY the invention of Ron Everett. It is not African. It is a tool to further Everett's racist goals.

The goals of the founder of Kwanzaa and his intent for Kwanzaa cannot be separated from Kwanzaa. The more people who ignorantly celebrate Kwanzaa and accept its "values" are more people who are accepting the underlying black nationalist Marxism designed into the "holiday" by its founder.

Do you support the establishment of a seperate black nation within the borders of the United States?

Do you support a racially motivated "revolution" within the United States (ie. the shedding of blood mentioned in the black nationalist pledge and represented by the color red in the black nationalist flag and within Kwanzaa)?

Do you support the spread of Marxism within the United States?

If your answer is no to any of these, then you can't accept Kwanzaa.

I'm not trying to ban the holiday or stop people from observing it. I simply want to register my strong objection to President Bush's official recognition of the racist and Marxist "holiday" and to back up my statements with facts about Kwanzaa, its founder, its origin, its intent, and its goals. You want to twist it into some racial thing, as you are so wont to do when you have no other argument, when it is not. Simply, the President should not have officially recognized the holiday and his statements about it were either made in ignorance or were pure political pandering.

197 posted on 12/30/2005 2:29:06 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
From your FR homepage:

"The fight for freedom is God's fight. Freedom is an eternal law of God."

But people should not be free to celebrate Kwanzaa, and President Bush should not be free to acknowledge it.

Hypocrite.

By the way, forgive my rudeness, I forgot to wish you a Happy Klanzaa.

199 posted on 12/30/2005 4:37:28 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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