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I think we do agree. It's the level of venom in your posts, thread after thread, day after day, that puts me off. There are many issues out there, and this particular one doesn't rank in the top 100.

To you. Yet, every December I have to see otherwise intelligent people pretend that Kwanzaa is something beneficial or laudatory. You seem to be missing the point that Kwanzaa is intended to foment racial division among blacks against all other races. It is intended to promote black nationalism which is the establishment of a seperate black nation within America. It is intended to undermine the black community's predominant association with Christianity as Kwanzaa's founder dismisses Christian beliefs as "spookism". It is intended to foster Marxist thought within the black community. And given its 1960's black revolutionary roots, it was intended to cause a black nationalist revolution within America.

Maybe you don't understand the colors associated with Kwanzaa and black nationalism in general - Red, Green, and Black. Let me educate you:

This is from the Kwanzaa Info. Center run by a black nationalist organization:
Go here.
Red is for the Blood. Black is the Black People. Green is for the Land.
The Red, or the blood, stands as the top of all things. We lost our land through blood; and we cannot gain it except through blood. We must redeem our lives through the blood. Without the shedding of blood there can be no redemption of this race. However, the bloodshed and sorrow will not last always. The Red significantly stands in our flag as a reminder of the truth of history, and that men must gain and keep their liberty, even at the risk of bloodshed.
The Black is in the middle. The Black man in this hemisphere has yet to obtain land which is represented by the Green. The acquisition of land is the highest and noblest aspiration for the Black man on this continent, since without land there can be no freedom, justice, independence, or equality.
Pledge
WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE RED, BLACK, AND GREEN, OUR FLAG, THE SYMBOL OF OUR ETERNAL STRUGGLE, AND TO THE LAND WE MUST OBTAIN; ONE NATION OF BLACK PEOPLE, WITH ONE GOD OF US ALL, TOTALLY UNITED IN THE STRUGGLE, FOR BLACK LOVE, BLACK FREEDOM, AND BLACK SELF-DETERMINATION.

Please review THIS PAGE.

The link I provided is to the position statements of the group called "The Organization Us". This is the same gang that Everett founded in the 60's, the same gang that lived a communal lifestyle as they practiced their bizarre brand of Marxism, the same gang that gunned down two rival gang members for heckling Everett during a speech in the UCLA student union about who would head the new Black Studies program there, the same gang from which came the two accomplices to Everett's sadistic torture crimes against the two young women. They've only slightly changed their name and their militant appearance, but the goals are the same nonetheless. Their PR effort makes them only slightly more palatable.

Review the statements on the link I provided and you will see just how detestable this organization and its views are. And these are the views that they wish to put front and center for all to read.

Now go to theOfficial Kwanzaa Website at www.officialkwanzaawebsite.org.

There you will see the logo from the US website:

You will also see the following statement:

First, Kwanzaa was created to reaffirm and restore our rootedness in African culture. It is, therefore, an expression of recovery and reconstruction of African culture which was being conducted in the general context of the Black Liberation Movement of the '60's and in the specific context of The Organization Us, the founding organization of Kwanzaa and the authoritative keeper of its tradition.

The views and history of US is inseperable from the Kwanzaa observance. They are the originators and official keepers of the Kwanzaa tradition. This is the holiday that you're defending and the holiday that Presidents Clinton and Bush gave official laudatory proclamations concerning.

I hope that this helps to further educate you about this detestable observance and helps you to begin to understand why some find Kwanzaa so objectionable.