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The Fourteenth Generation
The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 12/27/05 | Hans Zeiger

Posted on 12/27/2005 4:51:43 PM PST by qam1

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1 posted on 12/27/2005 4:51:44 PM PST by qam1
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To: qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; malakhi; m18436572; ...
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Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

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2 posted on 12/27/2005 4:54:39 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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I don't know about you, but the tattoo'd, mulitlingual, goatee-wearing, Bratz-doll-like, oral sex on the playground 14th generation scares the bejeebies out of me.

:)


3 posted on 12/27/2005 5:01:55 PM PST by emiller
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We are not protestors or slobs like the Baby Boomers.

Not ya' started it....here they come...

4 posted on 12/27/2005 5:04:36 PM PST by dakine
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"In the Fourteenth Generation, drug use is down; teen pregnancy and teen abortions are down; optimism is up; support of traditional moral values is up; “reality” is the big word because interest in absolute truth is up. A higher percentage of young people are pro-life than of any other age group. It is a generation of whom liberalism was expected and conservatism is being returned. We are patriotic and ambitious like our grandparents, morally rebellious like our parents. We are now in the beginning stages of that rebellion, and it is a rebellion against rebellion."

His conclusion puts the lie to his earlier assertion that Gen X was 'bewildered' and 'apathetic' about everything. Gen X might be financially less well off, more aborted, and poorly educated compared to their predecessors, but unlike the Boomers, They do know how to raise kids. And the non-Gen-X parents are mostly Boomers who are smart and waited to have kids until stable enough to do so, or Boomers who have grasped that they f'ed up the first time around with their initial families and have gotten better with their second parenting--though often abandoning their first spouse and kids in so doing. Gen X tends to really consider the financial and overall family impact of kids, and get it right the first time by parenting instead of resume-building.

5 posted on 12/27/2005 5:23:41 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I don't know any Boomer like that. Including me.

Didn't know I was wandering into a Boomer-bashing thread. [Or, aren't they all!]


6 posted on 12/27/2005 5:32:50 PM PST by Fudd Fan (God bless President Bush! (Water Bucket Brigade member - MOOSEMUSS!)
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Boy, what you been smokin'? The number 14 is providential? You've been doing the astrology gig for too long.

Your generation is full of self-absorption and self-adulation among other things. If it's just now graduating from high school, it is NOT for the most part defending America in Iraq. The soldiers LEADING that charge cut their teeth in Mogadishu, GW I, and some places we'll never hear much about. I should mention that your generation also seems very quick to take credit for things they did not do. That's going to make you very unpopular one day.

Us Baby Boomer "protesters" and "slobs" built an economy for your sorry ***es to enter at the lowest level until you've EARNED respect and a higher position through merit. That is if you can compete against people as good or better than you in India, Singapore, and Communist China. And if you can't, us slobs and protesters will nix your domestic job and ship it overseas faster than you can say quarterly results.

Son, it's always been a "rebellion against a rebellion. Most of the world is one big cycle, and it's been around long enough to teach you and yours some lessons. Did you know that the Greeks fought the Persians up the Tigris and Euphrates in Iraq along lines of battle that our troops now fight along? It's that old.

God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason.

7 posted on 12/27/2005 5:41:33 PM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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Hans Zeiger ought to be reminded that: a) pride goeth before fall; b) that Hillsdale College probably has reading lists of books to read and paper assignments to write, and c) it is not right to inflict his output on unsuspecting audience. His professors are at least paid to read it.


8 posted on 12/27/2005 5:42:20 PM PST by GSlob
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I'll take ome Hillsdale grad to any 10 from the Ivy.


9 posted on 12/27/2005 5:43:08 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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"I don't know any Boomer like that. Including me. Didn't know I was wandering into a Boomer-bashing thread. [Or, aren't they all!]"

Oh, I'm sure. In fact, I bet you and your Boomer friends are all great parents. Please, please, spout your kids' resume to prove me wrong.


10 posted on 12/27/2005 5:57:21 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I do not have children. How sensitive of you.


11 posted on 12/27/2005 6:10:13 PM PST by Fudd Fan (God bless President Bush! (Water Bucket Brigade member - MOOSEMUSS!)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Anyone who paints folks with a broad brush (especially because of the year in which they happened to be born) makes a mistake.
There are good boomer parents and bad boomer parents. Frankly, most of the parents I see out and about today seem to be letting their kiddies run the show. That's not what I consider good parenting, but your mileage may vary.
susie


12 posted on 12/27/2005 6:30:57 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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Bought six copies of the Fourth Turning by Strauss and Howe and sent them as Christmas gifts to friends. It is a great book. Change is coming.


13 posted on 12/27/2005 7:03:48 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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Like I give a rat's ass about being "sensitive" to you. If you want to be PC, go play on DU.


14 posted on 12/27/2005 7:06:14 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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Please do not give me that tired 'you can't paint with a broad brush' schtick here. Of course there are exceptions. But we make fun of DU every day, and I don't see a lot of people saying we shouldn't paint them with a broad brush. Saying 'boomer parenting' is speaking generally, not specifically. I'm sure some of your best friends are boomers and they rock, and I know some Gen Xers suck as parents.

But as to the notion that most parents are letting their kiddies run the show, I think it depends on where you go, too. Don't forget that the parents you see right now, as the last of Gen X and the start of the Millenials, are likely to be indicative of how Millenials will parent (think Silent Generation--then think, "Oh, crap!"). But I think there is no question that divorced parenting is not as good as married parenting, that permissive parenting is not as good as REAL parenting, that being a friend to your child is not being a parent, and all these negative practices are much more prevalent in the Boomer parents whence they came from than the Gen X parents who lived through that sort of parenting.


15 posted on 12/27/2005 7:12:36 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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I thought it was an interesting article, and how it went from where it was to parenting or boomer defense mode...hell, who knows. If I had to pick between those who choose to be big people who defend Boomers or one of the 14th generation that IS defending this country, guess which one I'd pick. The PC crap just REALLY got me, when the RUDEometer was bleeping away. LOL!


16 posted on 12/27/2005 7:25:26 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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Let's hope it's a good change. The young are often dangerously led. One can only hope the right visionary leads them.


17 posted on 12/27/2005 7:43:34 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if ya don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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This dude has some serious issues. Engaging in numerology for one thing while claiming to be Christian.


18 posted on 12/27/2005 8:02:24 PM PST by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I think it will be. Folks are fed up with too much government interference in their lives. It has gotten to the point that we simply can't afford the current system any longer.


19 posted on 12/27/2005 8:04:12 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: freema

Well no generation has the corner on RUDEness. Obviously.

Guess some are more RUDE than others.


20 posted on 12/27/2005 8:09:16 PM PST by Fudd Fan (God bless President Bush! (Water Bucket Brigade member - MOOSEMUSS!)
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