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Sacred Host Sold as Snacks in Quebec
The Globe and Mail ^ | December 27, 2005 | INGRID PERITZ

Posted on 12/27/2005 1:24:24 PM PST by rasblue

MONTREAL -- Is nothing sacred in Quebec any more? The answer may lie on the grocery-store shelves of the province, next to the chips, corn puffs, and salty party pretzels.

That's where shoppers can pick up an increasingly popular snack: communion wafers and sheets of communion bread. These paper-thin morsels made from flour and water hark back to Quebec's churchgoing days and the sacred rite of receiving holy communion.

But in today's secular Quebec, the wafers and bread are packaged like peanuts and popcorn - and sold as a distinctly profane snack.

"They melt in your mouth, and they're not fattening, so it's better than junk food," said Françoise Laporte, a white-haired grandmother of 71 who buys packages of Host Pieces at her local IGA in east-end Montreal. "I'm Catholic. This reminds us of mass."

For older Quebeckers, the snacks offer up a form of nostalgia. Surprisingly, however, they're also finding favour with a younger generation that has rarely, if ever, set foot inside a church.

"My son can eat a whole bag while he's watching TV," Paul Saumure, a manager at another IGA store, said of his 22-year-old. "He's had more of them outside of church than he ever did inside one."

The snacks have been available in stores for years, but the erstwhile holy items are enjoying a second life as a health food. Gaston Bonneau, one of the two major commercial producers in Quebec, says his business started with just himself and his wife in the mid-1980s. Now it's grown to 16 employees and he plans to automate production.

He says his wafers and sheets of "host cuttings" aren't sacred - after all, they haven't been consecrated by a priest or minister in a religious service. Still, the unmistakably sacred imagery seems to strike a chord.

"It's one of those rare items that's still around from the old days . . . everyone had them at some point," he said from his office in Quebec City.

But nostalgia can get you only so far. Contemporary concerns about eating a healthier diet help, he said.

"When you eat chips there's all the fat and salt. You eat a bag of host cuttings and there's none," Mr. Bonneau said. "You might have high blood pressure or a cholesterol problem. It's not exactly crunchy granola stuff, but it is natural."

The conversion of a communion wafer into a munchie-style snack is not entirely surprising in a province that has turned its back on religious practise. Quebec has gone from being one of the most devout enclaves in North America to one of the most secular. In Montreal, churches are being refitted as condominiums and religious statuettes are sold as home decor items in antique shops.

In Quebec filmmaker Denys Arcand's award-winning Les Invasions Barbares, a Catholic priest shows off a basement full of religious items in hopes of luring the interest of an auctioneer, only to be told they're worthless.

Still, not everyone is comfortable watching a symbol of Quebec's religious heritage morph into a snack food. After all, holy communion is one of the most essential Christian sacraments that for believers symbolizes spiritual union with the body of Christ.

"People are snacking on hosts and host pieces like it's candy. They're not distinguishing between the body of Christ and something you nibble on at home," said François Trudel, a former Catholic missionary familiar with the production of communion wafers in Quebec.

"Like everything these days, we're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. We don't respect anything. Nothing is sacred."

Traditionally, communion wafers were made by religious communities. The unleavened bread left over after the wafers were cut out was sold by monasteries to their parishioners.

A handful of Quebec monasteries still produce hosts and sell the leftover unblessed bread. A visitor can gain entry past the thick stone walls of the Carmelite monastery in Montreal's Plateau Mont Royal district and, for $5, buy a plain brown bag of wafer bread from an elderly nun.

The transaction takes place in hushed tones. The image of Carmelite nun St. Thérèse of Lisieux gazes out from a large photo on the wall.

There are no cash registers, no lineups and no lottery tickets are for sale. It may be the same combination of bread and water, but it feels like a long way from the Twinkies aisle.


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: antichurch; catholic; crackersncheese; evil; jesus; perpetuallyoffended; quebec; sacrilige; socialdegeneration; society
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To all Freepers who don't understand just how far Canada , and especially Quebec has degenerated, now you know. Quebec IMHO is probably the most statists, anti-religion, and socially liberal jurisdiction in the OECD or G7.
1 posted on 12/27/2005 1:24:26 PM PST by rasblue
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To: rasblue

Just a type of bread until it is consecrated, so it is no big deal.


2 posted on 12/27/2005 1:27:30 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: rasblue
So much for Catholicism in Quebec. Its of museum interest only.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 12/27/2005 1:28:06 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: bnelson44

What wine to serve?


5 posted on 12/27/2005 1:29:17 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Red


6 posted on 12/27/2005 1:29:58 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: rasblue

Oh, my.

Until the host is consecrated it's just crackers. However, this should be an interesting thread, I'd guess.

When I first saw this, I thought "Weekly World News" for sure. But I see that it's been picked up by the AP, so look out.


7 posted on 12/27/2005 1:31:12 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: rasblue
Is nothing sacred


8 posted on 12/27/2005 1:32:17 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: billorites
What wine to serve?

I think we should have seceded to the US?

9 posted on 12/27/2005 1:34:05 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: rasblue

"Perpetually Offended" bump?


10 posted on 12/27/2005 1:34:30 PM PST by indcons
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To: ASA Vet

Sacre Bleu! Sacrilege! Quelle Honte!


11 posted on 12/27/2005 1:35:04 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: indcons

Some people sure are.


12 posted on 12/27/2005 1:35:34 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: ASA Vet

Sacre Bleu! Sacrilege! Quelle Honte!

Nous sommes tous qui vont à l'enfer!


13 posted on 12/27/2005 1:36:23 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: rasblue

C'est pécheur. Damnez-les tous !


14 posted on 12/27/2005 1:38:12 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: rasblue

Until it's blessed by the priest, it's just a cracker.

If it's blessed by a rabbi, it's just a kosher cracker.


15 posted on 12/27/2005 1:38:24 PM PST by Alouette (Happy Hanukkah FReepers!)
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To: rasblue

Snooze. Unless it's consecrated, it's no more sacred than Saltines. Doesn't taste as good, either.


16 posted on 12/27/2005 1:41:01 PM PST by Tax-chick (A child is born in Bethlehem, Alleluia!)
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To: MineralMan

Speak English, I don't understand Farsi.


17 posted on 12/27/2005 1:41:37 PM PST by Ben Mugged
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To: rasblue

"The unleavened bread left over after the wafers were cut out was sold by monasteries to their parishioners."

Sacre bleu!! Are you going to organize against these "statists [and] anti-religion" group too? Wait a minute - the author is discussing monasteries!


18 posted on 12/27/2005 1:42:07 PM PST by indcons
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To: rasblue

YUM!
Tastes like chicken!


19 posted on 12/27/2005 1:43:10 PM PST by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: Alouette
Until it's blessed by the priest, it's just a cracker.

If it's blessed by a rabbi, it's just a kosher cracker.


And if it's covered in E-Z Cheese it's delicious!
20 posted on 12/27/2005 1:43:24 PM PST by rattrap
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To: Ben Mugged

That's not Farsi, it's Frogsi


21 posted on 12/27/2005 1:44:37 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: Ben Mugged

"Speak English, I don't understand Farsi."

I speak English, thanks. I write in French sometimes.


22 posted on 12/27/2005 1:44:51 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: rasblue

It's not consecrated. The celebrities that wear crosses and rosaries around their necks are in the same league. If it's not blessed and if it isn't consecrated, it's just stuff.


23 posted on 12/27/2005 1:45:58 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: ASA Vet

"That's not Farsi, it's Frogsi"

LMAO...best comment on the thread so far (IMHO)


24 posted on 12/27/2005 1:46:19 PM PST by indcons
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To: Ben Mugged

Ê àäó ñ âàìè!

Translate this!


25 posted on 12/27/2005 1:46:39 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: bnelson44
Just a type of bread until it is consecrated, so it is no big deal.

As a Catholic, I'd have to agree...but, that's not to say that it is in very bad taste. Everyone understands the indirect (or dare I say direct?) attempt to demean Catholicism in selling this "new snack food".

26 posted on 12/27/2005 1:46:45 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (The 2005 Chicago White Sox---World Series Champs---WOO! HOO!)
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To: bnelson44

Read the story... Its the attitude that galls me, not the fact that they are eating flat bread that is similar to an ice cream cone.


27 posted on 12/27/2005 1:47:27 PM PST by rasblue (Everyone has their price)
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To: OpusatFR

"They melt in your mouth..."

Oh balony. The hosts have a habit of sticking to the roof of your mouth because they are so dry and thin.


28 posted on 12/27/2005 1:47:41 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: rasblue

Now I've heard everything!

But, then, my brothers and I used to use Necco wafers for Communion whenever we played "priest"--way back when it was cool to be a priest.


29 posted on 12/27/2005 1:49:43 PM PST by Palladin (All the way with Alito!)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus; NYer

>> As a Catholic, I'd have to agree...but, that's not to say that it is in very bad taste<<

In our Polish house, this wafer was a part of the Christmas Eve celebration. If they want to eat them as a snack cracker, more power to them.

Hmmmmm, Oplatek with cheese. Who knew???


30 posted on 12/27/2005 1:51:12 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: netmilsmom
In our Polish house, this wafer was a part of the Christmas Eve celebration. If they want to eat them as a snack cracker, more power to them.

Hmmmmm, Oplatek with cheese. Who knew???

Huh...OK, to each his own I suppose. I have been accused of being too old-fashioned. ;)

31 posted on 12/27/2005 1:56:05 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (The 2005 Chicago White Sox---World Series Champs---WOO! HOO!)
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To: rasblue
Its the attitude that galls me, not the fact that they are eating flat bread that is similar to an ice cream cone.

You stated it better than I did...attitude and intent.

32 posted on 12/27/2005 1:57:16 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (The 2005 Chicago White Sox---World Series Champs---WOO! HOO!)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Well, you can buy them right at this site, in any quantity. They don't restrict sales to churches:


33 posted on 12/27/2005 2:01:27 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: rasblue

Nothing to get bent out of shape about - now if they start eating them with deviled eggs, however...


34 posted on 12/27/2005 2:02:30 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: rasblue

So? It is similar to an ice cream cone. Don't get into a huff about it. The miracle is that our Savior changed it into his body, before that it is simply bread. Just like the wine is simply wine.


35 posted on 12/27/2005 2:02:33 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: reagan_fanatic

It might lead to dancing.


36 posted on 12/27/2005 2:04:17 PM PST by uglybiker (Iraqis have purple on their fingers. Liberals have brown on their thumbs.)
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To: MineralMan

Sorry. Forgot the link. A Google search on "altar bread" will bring up lots of sources. Cheap, too.:

http://www.eganchurchsupply.com/CS/bread.htm


37 posted on 12/27/2005 2:04:40 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
As a Catholic I know the difference between a host and a consecrated eucharist. I also know the difference between wine and consecrated wine. Big difference. If someone wants to use an unconsecrated host as snack food, I have no problem with it. Just like I have no problem snacking on any unleavened bread.
38 posted on 12/27/2005 2:05:28 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: MineralMan

Or, you can make your own. There are 8 recipes on this page:

http://www.dignityusa.org/liturgy/altarbread.html


39 posted on 12/27/2005 2:06:34 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: netmilsmom

Sounds icky! I make flatbread with lentil and chickpea flour and curry powder sometimes, but it's much chewier!


40 posted on 12/27/2005 2:08:29 PM PST by Tax-chick (A child is born in Bethlehem, Alleluia!)
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To: rasblue; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

Remember these folks in your prayers. If they can make it to the monastery to purchase communion wafers, they can also linger for a while in the chapel and attend Mass.

Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


41 posted on 12/27/2005 2:11:05 PM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: rasblue

We went there recently and were somewhat disgusted they have a LIGHT SHOW in the Montreal Notredame cathedral now for like 20$ a person.


42 posted on 12/27/2005 2:20:09 PM PST by x5452
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To: rasblue

It's a piece of bread.


43 posted on 12/27/2005 2:23:17 PM PST by brooklin
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To: rasblue

The Catholic faith in Quebec was certainly pervasive, but it must not have been very deep for it to have disappeared so thoroughly. I am reminded of our many "Catholic" politicians here in the US who have made Abortion Rights their #1 cause. It seems to me they must have spent a lot of time in their youth building up the kind of resentment against God that they currently display.


44 posted on 12/27/2005 2:24:07 PM PST by madprof98
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To: uglybiker

Isn't the the punchline to a really off-color Methodist joke?


45 posted on 12/27/2005 2:26:05 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: MineralMan

These recipies all seem like they would be invalid matter. But what do you expect from a group that wants one of the four sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance to be treated as normal.


47 posted on 12/27/2005 2:37:32 PM PST by brf1
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To: rasblue
Unleavened bread is simply that, until it goes through a special ritual.
There is no prohibition whatsoevr in making and selling any type of bread in any form.

It's stories like this that makes me shudder, that really clueless fundamentalist Christians are indistinguishable from the muslim kind.

48 posted on 12/27/2005 2:38:16 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: rasblue

It's not really a big deal. When I was an altar boy in the 60's, and had to do early Mass, I didn't have time for breakfast. The priest let us eat handfuls of unconsecrated wafers just to get something in our stomachs.


49 posted on 12/27/2005 2:38:50 PM PST by atomicweeder
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To: bnelson44

Exactly. They're not hosts until a priest performs the sacrament.


50 posted on 12/27/2005 2:39:55 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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