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Killing Christians and blaming Israel — you can't say those mujaheddeen aren't clever
1 posted on 12/26/2005 9:12:23 AM PST by Hunden
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To: Hunden
Indeed many leaders in attendance at Christmas Eve Mass in Bethlehem last night took the occasion to blame Israel's recently constructed security fence in the area for Christian woes.

No need to verbalize it, but what the heck. Christian "leaders" can be every bit as arbitrary and moronic parasites as muslim ones.
I wish just one of these [censored] had given specific cogent reasons how an Israeli wall built to keep muslim killers out somewhere else has an adverse effect on Christians in Bethlehem.

One other point that is not discussed. How did Bethlehem go from 90% Christian to 25% Christian? It's as if Israel didn't care, one way or the other.
If anything similar had happened in the Israeli muslim- occupied territories, the world press would be all over the "genocide".

2 posted on 12/26/2005 10:34:34 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Hunden
And a sampling of American media coverage of this weekend's festivities seems to find Israel mostly at fault for the decline in Christian living conditions and population figures.

Well, D'OH!

Abandon a small town to the palestinian authority, and even a retard can figure out its effect on Christians!

3 posted on 12/26/2005 10:39:51 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Hunden

bump


4 posted on 12/26/2005 10:41:28 AM PST by VOA
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To: Hunden
"Palestinians are seeking a bridge to peace instead of Israeli walls. Unfortunately, Israel is continuing with its destructive policy ... (and) transforming our land into a big jail."

I call BS on them.

Respect for the Christian Holy sites and "seeking a bridge to peace" my patuti.

It wasn't the Palestinian Christians that literally sh** and p*ssed all over the Holy Church of the Nativity a few years back, it was the filthy Muslims.

But yet, they blamed it all on the "Joooooooooooooo's..."

5 posted on 12/26/2005 10:42:34 AM PST by kstewskis ("Go to your room!"....Dan Rowan to Dick Martin)
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To: Hunden

To the muslims, if blaming Bush doesn't work, then blame the Jews.


6 posted on 12/26/2005 10:44:51 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Hunden
For years, Bethlehem was largely Christian. But when the PA took control in 1995 it publicly expanded Bethlehem's boundaries reportedly to ensure a Muslim majority, incorporating into the city over 30,000 Muslims from adjacent refugee camps. Then-PLO leader Yasser Arafat unilaterally replaced the Christian-dominated city council with a largely Muslim leadership.

Even an article which wants to appear neutral fails to "connect" the relevant dots...

When did the Israeli wall come to Bethlehem?
When did the plunge in Christian population and tourism occur?

QED

8 posted on 12/26/2005 10:55:28 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Hunden
just come throughout the year and see the intimidation from the Muslims. They have burned down our stores, built mosques in front of our churches, stole our real estate and took away our rights. Women have been raped and abducted...

...Just Muslims practicing what they do best - intimidating, abusing and ultimately driving out or killing the peaceful Infidels and dhimmies.

...coming to a country near you - or more likely it's already there...

10 posted on 12/26/2005 11:01:08 AM PST by Gritty ("Liberals like charges against Tom DeLay more than charges against Saddam HusseinAnn Coulter)
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To: eyespysomething

ping


11 posted on 12/26/2005 11:35:10 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Hunden
For anyone who would be truly informed about this security fence, its justification, the motivation and the results (fewer Israelis murdered), just check out the following link:

Security Wall

12 posted on 12/26/2005 11:54:01 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Hunden
Oh my goodness.
Three hours after seeing this thread, reading it and thinking: "Hmmmmmmmmm...", searching the web for additional information on Christian population in Bethlehem, 1996-2005, I came across this little tidbit, which seems to have escaped everyone at the MSM:

"Half of the Israeli terror fatalities in 2004 came from attackers who entered Jerusalem from Bethlehem."

A normal person would think that this fact alone would be relevant to a discussion about the wall and Bethlehem...

13 posted on 12/26/2005 1:16:20 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Hunden

later read/pingout.


14 posted on 12/26/2005 1:27:14 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Hunden

"For years, Bethlehem was largely Christian"

For years Iraq, Lebanon and Egypt were Christian. Of course the Muslims came in peace.


15 posted on 12/26/2005 1:35:41 PM PST by avile
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17 posted on 12/26/2005 3:08:23 PM PST by SJackson (There's no such thing as too late, that's why they invented death. Walter Matthau)
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Well, I wouldn't be surprised if some of those Christians bash Israel because they're afraid, and with good reason. The Muslims probably would burn or bomb their churches if they don't.


18 posted on 12/26/2005 8:48:15 PM PST by Jacob Kell (NAACP-National Association for the Advancement of Commie Pinkos.)
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I see the usual suspects blame Israel for the situation in Bethlehem. Never a peep from the bigwigs or MSM about the persecutions and intimidations the Christians receive from the Muzzies, but let Israel have any sort of security arrangements and it is all Israel's fault. Nag, nag, nag. Whine, whine, whine. I don't recall the Church of the Nativity ever getting trashed and desecrated when Israel ruled Bethlehem. I don't recall Christians Bethlehem wasn't a dying backwater when Israel ruled it. I'll take Israeli rule over Christian holy places over Muzzie "sovereignty" any day of the week!


20 posted on 12/27/2005 6:05:52 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, stop sending my tax money to Hamastine!)
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24 posted on 12/25/2006 9:37:39 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas)
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25 posted on 12/26/2006 6:22:40 AM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: Hunden
Let's not worry about things like using the Bible as toilet paper. We are not hyper-thin-skinned, superstitious Muslims who get p-o'd for the wrong reasons. God is not mocked. Paper is paper and God's word is God's word, and the fact that the latter is printed on the former should not make us cuckoo.

Someone was pointing out on TV over the Christmas weekend how many times it says "Be not afraid" in the Bible. Stop them? Yes. Fear them? Never.

29 posted on 12/26/2006 9:39:24 AM PST by firebrand
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