[Anti-Bubba182]

There is that! Unfortunately, the "torture" bill has a lot more chance of passing. I put torture in quotes because I don't think what we are doing or have done really qualifies as torture. What was done to McCain in North Vietnam was torture. He more than most should know the difference.

Our enemies and "friends" in this world won't like us better if we pass such a bill and McCain must know it.

[flaglady47]

, the "torture" bill has a lot more chance of passing.

If the torture bill passes, so does ANWR. They are both part of the budget package. Unless the usually cowardly Pubs pull the ANWR part out at the last minute. We'll see.