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To: Siena Dreaming
If the pastor is the one responsible for any good works being done, he may be entitled to a nice vacation every once in a while.

Google around on him. Amoung other things, he lives in a multi-million dollar house. He also doesn't teach that the only way to heaven is through jesus. He also doesn't seem to beleive in sin. He is just a motivational speaker masquerading as a pastor.

24 posted on 12/20/2005 9:03:37 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
"Google around on him. Amoung other things, he lives in a multi-million dollar house. He also doesn't teach that the only way to heaven is through jesus. He also doesn't seem to beleive in sin. He is just a motivational speaker masquerading as a pastor."

I'm not a Joel Osteen expert, but aren't there other pastors who've been financially successful too? I'm thinking in particular of Billy Graham and his son. I happen to like Billy Graham from what I've observed over the years.
27 posted on 12/20/2005 9:23:08 PM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: Rodney King
I have listened to him a couple of times. I thought he sounded like a motivational speaker. I don't waste my time listening to him anymore.
35 posted on 12/20/2005 9:33:53 PM PST by Moorings
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To: Rodney King

"Google around on him. Amoung other things, he lives in a multi-million dollar house. He also doesn't teach that the only way to heaven is through jesus. He also doesn't seem to beleive in sin. He is just a motivational speaker masquerading as a pastor."

You hit the nail on the head. He constantly spouts this arminian "motivational" crap. "God wants you to be rich, healthy, and good lookin'" Anyone who profits financially from the gospel of Jesus Christ is just pitiful. Also, anyone who uses the word "wants" with respect to God does not have a clue.


43 posted on 12/20/2005 10:18:40 PM PST by Hardshell
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To: Rodney King
Google around on him. Amoung other things, he lives in a multi-million dollar house.

Good, he earned it from writing best selling books.

He also doesn't teach that the only way to heaven is through jesus.

Joel tends to be overly tolerant of other religion, but he does teach that jesus is our saviour.

He also doesn't seem to beleive in sin. He is just a motivational speaker masquerading as a pastor.

Joel is more of a motivational speaker splinkled with some Biblical teaching. It is more of a Church-lite teaching. But Joel seems to be effective at what he does. Certainly wouldn't listened to Joel to get a deep insight into the Bible, but then again if he can bring millions of people to Christ it is a good thing.

71 posted on 12/21/2005 5:57:38 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Rodney King
I don't like Olsteen myself, and I agree that the only way to heaven is thru Christ, a message many preachers veer away from.

However, I can't bash a pastor for taking a nice vacation once in a while. Or even having a nice house.

97 posted on 12/21/2005 8:41:14 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Rodney King

Joel Osteen has a rather thin Christian veneer.


143 posted on 02/27/2015 12:36:35 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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