Jihad is 'Muslim obligation'

icliverpool ^ | Dec 20 2005 | Staff

[hripka]

A lawyer defending al Qaida-linked suspects standing trial for the 2003 suicide bombings in Istanbul told a court that jihad, or holy war, was an obligation for Muslims and his clients should not be prosecuted.

"If you punish them for this, tomorrow, will you punish them for fasting or for praying?" Osman Karahan -- a lawyer representing 14 of the 72 suspects -- asked during a nearly four-hour speech in which he read religious texts from an encyclopedia of Islam.

The November 2003 blasts targeted two synagogues, the British Consulate and the local headquarters of the London-based HSBC bank, killing 58 people.

The Arabic word jihad can mean holy war among extremists in addition to its definition as the Islamic concept of the struggle to do good.

Karahan spoke for three hours at the court in Istanbul.

"If non-Muslims go into Muslim lands, it is every Muslim's obligation to fight them," Karahan said.

A panel of three judges for the fiercely secular Turkish Republic listened to Karahan patiently, without speaking, as the defence lawyer read from four thick file folders.

Twenty-nine of the suspects were brought to the courthouse for the hearing, handcuffed and escorted by paramilitary police. They sat in the middle of the courtroom, surrounded by police.

More than a dozen other lawyers were also present but only Karahan spoke in the morning session.

Later in the day, several defendants acknowledged receiving training at foreign camps for Islamic militants or making plans to carry out acts of extremist violence, but all but one denied a link to the Istanbul bombings or to al Qaida.

[hripka]

Just wait until 1st Amendment lawyers get started.

[Bayou Dittohead]

The Night Before Jihad

Twas the night before jihad and all through the mosque
Not a terrorist was stirring not even Abu Al-Zarasq
The suicide belts were arranged neatly on the floor
The written fatwah from Imam was taped to the door
The mullahs were delighted with news on CNN
That the Democrats were repeating how Bush lied again
The Times and DNC continually sing our notes
Yet, when we take over we'll still slit their throats
An infidel so friendly we could not recall
But, Burkett, Sheehan & Wilson weren't working at all
The Stupid Cowboy they called him was still all the news
Kerry was our man but destined to lose
When outside our haven arose such a clatter
The GIs were upon us to settle the matter
Allah would reward us with our virgins tonight
Not as we planned but for us it was all right
From our glorious heaven we heard news that we like
The American press spoke of this US terrorist strike
On Murtha On Pelosi On Kennedy and Reid
The Democrat Stooges always say as we need
The infidel liberals don't learn from their past
Merry jihad to all and to all a good blast

[steel_resolve]

Nice to see Lawyers are as worthless in other countries as in ours...

[RegulatorCountry]

"If non-Muslims go into Muslim lands, it is every Muslim's obligation to fight them"

Turnabout is fair play, then.

If Muslims go into non-Muslim lands, it is every non-Muslim's obligation to fight them.

[DTogo]

Good, because Crusades are a Christian obligation!

[rebel against tyrants=obey God]

"If non-Muslims go into Muslim lands, it is every Muslim's obligation to fight them."

And if Islamofascists come onto American lands and murder thousands of people in a couple of hours, it is America's obligation to bomb the heck out of their countries.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

Since all Muslims are obligated to conduct Jihad against us, I guess that all wars against an Islamic nation are easily justified as a matter of self defense based on their own interpretation of their "holy" text.

[Shermy]

""If non-Muslims go into Muslim lands, it is every Muslim's obligation to fight them," Karahan said."

So he's saying Turkey is an insuficiently Muslim land to merit protection?

This lawyer is getting paid?

I'd like to know what those "foreign" lands were.

[Dajjal]

Sadat's assassin, Muhammad Abd al-Salam Faraj, wrote an important tract called "The Neglected Duty." He showed that jihad is an obligation, according to the Qur'an, and accused Muslims at large of neglecting this duty. His booklet is widespread throughout the Muslim world, and has been profoundly influential.

http://www.tibyan.net/ViewProduct.asp?ProductID=268

[Old Seadog]

"Please, do not try to stop me. It is my religious obligation to kill you."

[billhilly]

"a lawyer representing 14 of the 72 suspects -- "

This lawyer is representing the virgins?

[Fruitbat]

"If non-Muslims go into Muslim lands, it is every Muslim's obligation to fight them"

Turnabout is fair play, then.

If Muslims go into non-Muslim lands, it is every non-Muslim's obligation to fight them.

Come on now, you're bringing common sense into this. There's no place for that in this debate, especially when lawyers are involved. Shame on you!

[gotribe]

...10 seconds to impact...

[Mulch]

Impressive. Nicely done.

[RegulatorCountry]

"Come on now, you're bringing common sense into this."

Oh, sorry. Guess I'm slipping, lol.

[TheForceOfOne]

jihad, or holy war, was an obligation for Muslims

And its our obligation to put a bullet in each and every one of them.

[Galveston Grl]

**"If non-Muslims go into Muslim lands, it is every Muslim's obligation to fight them," Karahan said. **\

And it is every non-Muslim's duty to kill 'em before they kill us.

[steel_resolve]

I don't know, but I found this little paragraph on Craigs List a while back. It was in response to some Muslim threatening Americans I suspect. I think it sums up the situation nicely:
Nice try, but you, like so many others, are underestimating the American spirit, not to mention forgetting your history. After 9/11 if Bush would have glassed Mecca we would have had no problem with it for the most part. The problem we have is that he's a gutless pu$$y. One attack at a time, with years in between, isn't going to rile people up all that much, or gain you much ground. Remember, to take America you have to take every house, because we're armed to the teeth, and the word "hunter" is easily changed to "sniper" under different circumstances. If there is ever an "in your face" Islamic uprising you guys are toast. History proves me out, Muslims have had their ass kicked back to the sand pit every time they've tried, going back to shortly after the founding of your great, peaceful religion. As for now, when we are all on the same page there is nothing more terrifying to behold. Unfortunately after 9/11 we rolled over and hit the snooze button, but you can ask Japan and Germany what will happen if you wake the sleeping giant. Don't be naive, we are "THE" giant, and we are definitely still asleep. Shhhh. Bitch. Don't wake daddy you'll be sorry. Uncle Sam

[spokeshave]

"Good, because Crusades are a Christian obligation!"

First check your church hymnal to see if Onward Christian Soldiers is still on the books.

[clee1]

"If you punish them for this, tomorrow, will you punish them for fasting or for praying?"

No, you moose-limb azzhat; because fasting and praying doesn't take the lives of innocent bystanders.

I've often wondered this: Do moose-limbs believe Allah is so powerless that he can't kill the infidels himself if he wants them dead so badly?