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First woman conscientious objector to war in Iraq to take public stand (Barf Alert)
Not on our name (Moonbat website)

Posted on 12/13/2005 4:48:03 PM PST by Thunder90

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To: Doctor Raoul

It isn't an anti-war movement. It is an anti-Ameerican War movement.

I've seen a number of them quite supportive of the Palestinian War against Israel (including the use of suicide bombers).


61 posted on 12/13/2005 5:36:16 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Thunder90

I agree they should give her a DD.

Let her go, mark her whiney, liberal ass for life.


62 posted on 12/13/2005 5:37:22 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Leisler
"..When I enlisted I believed that killing was immoral..I enlisted in the Guard as a cook .."

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


63 posted on 12/13/2005 5:41:41 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Leisler

LOL...oops...snipped off what was FUNNY...

"She's killed hundreds already."

(THAT'S why I don't tell jokes anymore...:)


64 posted on 12/13/2005 5:43:50 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Thunder90

Order her to Iraq and arrest her when she doesn't report.

Article 87—Missing movement

“Any person subject to this chapter who through neglect or design misses the movement of a ship, aircraft, or unit with which he is required in the course of duty to move shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

Elements.

(1) That the accused was required in the course of duty to move with a ship, aircraft or unit;

(2) That the accused knew of the prospective movement of the ship, aircraft or unit;

(3) That the accused missed the movement of the ship, aircraft or unit; and

(4) That the accused missed the movement through design or neglect.

Explanation.

(1) Movement. “Movement” as used in Article 87 includes a move, transfer, or shift of a ship, aircraft, or unit involving a substantial distance and period of time. Whether a particular movement is substantial is a question to be determined by the court-martial considering all the circumstances. Changes which do not constitute a “movement” include practice marches of a short duration with a return to the point of departure, and minor changes in location of ships, aircraft, or units, as when a ship is shifted from one berth to another in the same shipyard or harbor or when a unit is moved from one barracks to another on the same post.

(2) Mode of movement.

(a) Unit. If a person is required in the course of duty to move with a unit, the mode of travel is not important, whether it be military or commercial, and includes travel by ship, train, aircraft, truck, bus, or walking. The word “unit” is not limited to any specific technical category such as those listed in a table of organization and equipment, but also includes units which are created before the movement with the intention that they have organizational continuity upon arrival at their destination regardless of their technical designation, and units intended to be disbanded upon arrival at their destination.

(b) Ship, aircraft. If a person is assigned as a crew member or is ordered to move as a passenger aboard a particular ship or aircraft, military or chartered, then missing the particular sailing or flight is essential to establish the offense of missing movement.

(3) Design. “Design” means on purpose, intentionally, or according to plan and requires specific intent to miss the movement.

(4) Neglect. “Neglect” means the omission to take such measures as are appropriate under the circumstances to assure presence with a ship, aircraft, or unit at the time of a scheduled movement, or doing some act without giving attention to its probable consequences in connection with the prospective movement, such as a departure from the vicinity of the prospective movement to such a distance as would make it likely that one could not return in time for the movement.

(5) Actual knowledge. In order to be guilty of the offense, the accused must have actually known of the prospective movement that was missed. Knowledge of the exact hour or even of the exact date of the scheduled movement is not required. It is sufficient if the approximate date was known by the accused as long as there is a causal connection be-tween the conduct of the accused and the missing of the scheduled movement. Knowledge may be proved by circumstantial evidence.

(6) Proof of absence. That the accused actually missed the movement may be proved by documentary evidence, as by a proper entry in a log or a morning report. This fact may also be proved by the testimony of personnel of the ship, aircraft, or unit (or by other evidence) that the movement occurred at a certain time, together with evidence that the accused was physically elsewhere at that time.

Lesser included offenses.

(1) Design.

(a) Article 87—missing movement through neglect

(b) Article 86—absence without authority

(c) Article 80—attempts

(2) Neglect. Article 86—absence without authority

Maximum punishment.

(1) Design. Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 2 years.

(2) Neglect. Bad-conduct discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for 1 year.

Sergeant York was a Conscientious Objector until he was shown the error of his ways.


65 posted on 12/13/2005 5:46:42 PM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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To: Thunder90

cuz she wanted the benefits but not the sacrifice?


66 posted on 12/13/2005 5:46:45 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: ozarkgirl

sure am!


67 posted on 12/13/2005 5:57:45 PM PST by ladiesview61
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To: You Dirty Rats
Ship her out on the next plane.

I agree but I want my tax money spent on her training back. Ship her back, put a lien against any assets in the future against the cost of her training and education provided by the military.

68 posted on 12/13/2005 6:08:30 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: Thunder90
"I moved to Austin, TX to attend college."

There's the problem right there. She's been brainwashed by Commie and Marxist "professors."

69 posted on 12/13/2005 6:14:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: ladiesview61
sure am!

lol! You are certainly entitled to your opinion! :^)

70 posted on 12/13/2005 6:16:31 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I've noticed how the left treats these dupes.... They portray them as heroic victims against the Bush War machine until they are convicted. Then they drop them like a hot potato with their lives destroyed.

Hope that discharge looks good on a resume, Honey!


71 posted on 12/13/2005 6:18:43 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: rlmorel
DEATH From Within!
72 posted on 12/13/2005 6:23:18 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Thunder90
She enlisted to get money for college and/or benefits, never believing that she would actually have to do what signing up means you have to do. In other words, she took money under false pretense.

The military should make her pay back what she's cost them and then boot her out.

73 posted on 12/13/2005 6:27:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: zip
After reading essays by Bertrand Russel You can stop reading right there.

I stopped when she said she went to Austin. Bertrand Russell is the next step there.

74 posted on 12/13/2005 6:36:14 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Thunder90
I have a deeply held belief that people must solve all conflicts through peaceful diplomacy and without the use of violence. Violence only begets more violence.

"That'a Girl. You tell 'em! We're all with you on that."

75 posted on 12/13/2005 6:43:53 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Thunder90
I have a deeply held belief that people must solve all conflicts through peaceful diplomacy and without the use of violence. Violence only begets more violence.

This phrase positively identifies the latent COWARD. Wonder if the defect is genetic?

76 posted on 12/13/2005 7:14:26 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Thunder90
Any person doing any job in the Army, contributes in some way to the planning, preparation or implementation of war.

Georgie Patton couldn't have said it any better!

77 posted on 12/13/2005 7:23:02 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

No Kidding...and by the way...I loved your "about" page! Short, but to the POINT!


78 posted on 12/13/2005 7:43:28 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Leo Carpathian

79 posted on 12/13/2005 7:54:56 PM PST by devolve (<-- (--in a manner reminiscent of Senator Ghengis Kohn--)
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To: Thunder90

We want volunteers. Not someone who breaks their word.

Courtmartial her out with a bad discharge.


80 posted on 12/13/2005 8:16:51 PM PST by wildbill
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