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New York GOP wants Jeanine Pirro to drop out of race against Hillary for U.S. Senate
NewsMax.com

Posted on 12/13/2005 4:42:40 PM PST by Costigan

The GOP is once failing to support a promising Republican Woman candidate for higher office .

The New York GOP does not want her to run against Hillary Clinton for her U.S. Senate seat . Instead they want her to run for State Attorney General again .

The reason seems that Pirro is not as fabulously weel funded as Hillary for a U.S. Senate Campaign . Also, Pirro's campaign got off to a messy start .it


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Well, so much for loyalty !

It seems the RINO's want to drop Jeanine Pirro just like they abandoned Katherine Harris earliar this year . For much the same reasons as stated above .

Is this a case of the GOP not wanting to win, or more that they do not want strong ambitious Republican women to represent the GOP ?

1 posted on 12/13/2005 4:42:42 PM PST by Costigan
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To: Costigan
Pirro is not a "victim" of RINO's. She has too much baggage. Period. Get someone more electable.
2 posted on 12/13/2005 4:44:37 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Have a RamaHanuKwanzMas" - Glenn Beck (And Merry Christmas!) (... and "Happy Holidays!"))
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To: Costigan

Isn't Pirro a RINO herself?


3 posted on 12/13/2005 4:44:56 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

I did not say she was a Conservative .


4 posted on 12/13/2005 4:50:51 PM PST by Costigan (Hey, that interview is so hyped up !)
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To: Costigan

Her stance on abortion and gay rights is enough for her to "step aside" and let someone electable run in her place.


5 posted on 12/13/2005 4:51:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: manwiththehands

Well, there are many Republicans who have 'baggage' .
And before the Eve of Election2006 we may find that many more GOP have skeletons in their closets .
Is that a reason to drop them ?

Please elaborate what Jeanine Pirro's 'baggage' is ?
I am not saying you are wrong, I just want to know the details . .


6 posted on 12/13/2005 4:56:42 PM PST by Costigan (Hey, that interview is so hyped up !)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Her stance on abortion and gay rights is enough for her to "step aside" and let someone electable run in her place.
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How strongly does she advocate such ?
Is she only a token supporter or an advocate ?

As for someone more electable- name a potential GOP candidate who has greater name recognition .
And I do not mean just on the State Level, for such a candidate will need help funding from out of state .

Who else seriously wants to run against Hillary ?

Jeanine Pirro may not be dyed-in-the-wool GOP material,
but we must be flexible - you don't always get all that you want . .


7 posted on 12/13/2005 5:04:05 PM PST by Costigan (Hey, that interview is so hyped up !)
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To: Costigan

It may require a little tinfoil, but I think the RNC wants to force Hillary to make a decision about Senate or President. They want her to have to choose.


8 posted on 12/13/2005 5:14:37 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: Costigan
If some undecided voter is sitting there weighing their vote between Hillary and Pirro, they're going to look at the two and their stance on abortion and gay rights and then say to themselves "Why should I vote for Pirro, when I can get the same from Hillary?"

Pirro is clearly at odds with the platform of the Conservative movement when it comes to basic social and moral issues.

Jeanine Pirro may not be dyed-in-the-wool GOP material,

I understand that. This is New York we're talking about.

but we must be flexible -

Principled folks, namely Conservatives, don't just bend and twist on a whim.

you don't always get all that you want . .

When you're bending and twisting with the political wind you will never ever get what you want in life.

9 posted on 12/13/2005 5:16:57 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: manwiththehands
GOP seems to blow opportunities over and over and could have lined up some one earlier. At least she'll make Hillary spend some of her war chest and make her respond (doubt it) to some of her lies.

I haven't seen GOP do much lately, we're heading for some defeats in 2006 and 2008 if they continue the way they are going. The only way Hillary loses is if she croaks or some one with guts is willing to take her on.
10 posted on 12/13/2005 5:38:13 PM PST by newfrpr04
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To: Costigan
She's too moderate on abortion and gay rights. Then all that stuff with her husband ... I'm not saying she's a bad candidate. I would vote for her over Comrade Clinton if I lived in NY, but running against Hitlery we need someone more squeaky clean. Clinton will be merciless and partisan.
11 posted on 12/13/2005 6:39:36 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Have a RamaHanuKwanzMas" - Glenn Beck (And Merry Christmas!) (... and "Happy Holidays!"))
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To: Costigan
Does the NY GOP have anyone who might be considered even a remotely viable candidate against Shrillery?
12 posted on 12/13/2005 7:14:42 PM PST by steelcurtain
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To: neodad
>>It may require a little tinfoil, but I think the RNC wants to force Hillary to make a decision about Senate or President. They want her to have to choose.<<

Indeed, I have read some sites- that have suggested that some on the Right, might have that Hillary for President might not be such a bad idea, considering the current dissatisfaction with Dubya's lack of support for conservative causes and candidates, and his continuing low polling numbers .

Better an enemy you know than a friend you can't trust .

If Hillary did get into the White House, if would galvanize
Conservatives like never before .
Or at least since Bill Clinton was at the height of his powers in 1993-94
13 posted on 12/13/2005 9:58:41 PM PST by Costigan (Hey, that interview is so hyped up !)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

>>If some undecided voter is sitting there weighing their vote between Hillary and Pirro, they're going to look at the two and their stance on abortion and gay rights and then say to themselves "Why should I vote for Pirro, when I can get the same from Hillary?"<<

I have been think about that myself since after I started this thread and got your first responses .

If according to that Newsmax article, Jeanine Pirro's campaign is in a bind, then we Conservatives have the chance to get her to make concessions ! To come on over to our side .
Katherine Harris was much less Conservative before what she had to go thru in the Election Mess of November 2000 at the hands of the Liberal Vipers (who are the character assassins for and of, The DemonCrats) .
As evidenced here on FreeRepublic there was an outpouring of support for then Secretary of State Harris by us Conservatives, that converted her intensely to our causes,
and our faith !
I do not know a lot anout Pirro or how much she is a 'social liberal' . The way I read it, her support for issues like 'homosexual marriage' and 'abortion' cannot be too deep or she would not have gotten this far .
I may be completely wrong here .

>>Principled folks, namely Conservatives, don't just bend and twist on a whim.<<

True, but one can flex without bending and bend without breaking .

>>When you're bending and twisting with the political wind you will never ever get what you want in life.
<<
Nor will we get anywhere by becomming to unyielding .
Rigidity is what the GangsterCrats are guilty of . .

So unless Pirro has made definable actions for homo and
femminazi causes- we have an opportunity to convert
Jeanine Pirro to our side .


14 posted on 12/13/2005 10:19:50 PM PST by Costigan (Hey, that interview is so hyped up !)
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To: neodad
Nope, the N.Y.State GOP is in complete disarray and they appear to want to lose.
15 posted on 12/13/2005 10:22:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Yes, this IS New York that we're talking about...a place and its people you know nothing about and understand less.

FYI...Jeanine is a Republican and always has has been one. No, she isn't a far righty, she isn't someone you would vote for, but she IS someone who New Yorkers would vote for over Hillary. WHY? Because she wouldn't quite to run for president 2 years later, she's strong on the WoT and putting criminals in jail and she, unlike any man, could have fought Hillary without Hill's usual charge of sexism.

16 posted on 12/13/2005 10:27:18 PM PST by nopardons
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To: manwiththehands

Then all that stuff with her husband ... <<

I know not, anything about this . But considering what Hillary has allowed her Lothario husband to get away with, Pirro can fire back with like salvos .
But like I said, I do not know the details .

Pirro seems gutsy If she is determined, then we GOPers should give her a chance .

As for demonization by Hitlery, that can work both ways .


17 posted on 12/13/2005 10:27:45 PM PST by Costigan (Hey, that interview is so hyped up !)
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To: manwiththehands
WRONG! Squeaky clean isn't the answer...it's that any male candidate will allow Hill to "play the victim".

That will only work in a state election, but not in a national one.

18 posted on 12/13/2005 10:29:14 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
...a place and its people you know nothing about and understand less.

Save that expended keyboard energy for posters you truly loathe.

No, she isn't a far righty, she isn't someone you would vote for, but she IS someone who New Yorkers would vote for over Hillary.

I'm aware that she's not a "far righty", I'm also aware that Democrats for example, outnumber Republicans in New York City alone by a 5-to-1 ratio. Don't assume "I wouldn't vote for her", you know as well as I do that I won't waste my time with a third party vote and when it comes down to it, abandon my principles on some far-left screeching moonbat like Hillary.

19 posted on 12/13/2005 11:33:41 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: nopardons
WRONG! Squeaky clean isn't the answer...it's that any male candidate will allow Hill to "play the victim".

Exactly, and that's exactly how she got elected the last time around, all because her opponent took one step aside from his podium, she plays the sexism and victim cards and reaped the sympathy vote.

20 posted on 12/13/2005 11:38:30 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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