Posted on 12/12/2005 9:33:13 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
...(GD=The Great Divorce; LM=Letters to Malcolm, M=Miracles, MC=Mere Christianity; PP=the Problem of Pain; RPO=Reflections on the Psalms, SJ=Suprised by Joy, SL= The Screwtape Letters:
...Theology Proper
On Creation: Lewis believed that evolution was true to an extent in the past, but that it will be superseded in the future (MC, p.169).
"...for we have good reason to believe that animals existed long before men...For long centuries God pefected the animal form which was to become the vehicle of humanity and the image of Himself...[Eventually,] God caused a new kind of consciousness to descend upon this organism" (PP,pp. 137,77).
"...Man, the highest of the animals" (MC, p. 139);
"...but he (man) remains still a primate and an animal" (RP, pp. 115, 129);
"If...you mean simply that man is physically descended from animals, I have no objection" (PP, p. 72)
"He made an earth at first 'without form and void' and brought it to its perfection" (M. p. 125)
Nature's "pregnancy has been long and painful and anxious, but it has reached its climax" (MC, p. 172)
He held that the Genesis account came from Pagan and mythical sources -- "I have therefore no difficulty accepting, say, the view of those scholars who tell that the account of Creation in Genesis is derived from earlier Semetic stories which were Pagan and mythical." (RP, p. 110).
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Soteriology
How salvation (the general scope) works: "there are people in other religions who are being led by God's secret influence to concentrate on those parts of their religion which are in agreement with Christianity, and who thus belong to Christ without knowing it...For example a Buddhist of good will may be led to concentrate more and more on the Buddhist teaching about mercy and to leave in the background (though he still might say he believed) the Buddhist teaching on certain points. many of the good Pagans long before Christ's birth may have been in this position" (MC, pp. 176-177).
By the time of his death, Lewis had moved from Idealsim (no idea of a personal God) to Pantheism (an impersonal God in everything) and then to Theism (the existence of God). In letters to Malcolm (p. 107) Lewis indicates that shortly before his death he was turning toward the Catholic Church. Lewis termed himself "very Catholic" -- his prayers for the dead, belief in purgatory, and rejection of the literal resurrection of the body are serious deviations from Biblical Christianity (C.S. Lewis: A Biography, p. 234) he even went to a priest for regular confession (p. 198)., and received the sacrament of extreme unction on 7/16/63 (p. 301) His contention that some pagans may "bel;ong to Christ without kinowing it" is a destructive heresy (Mere Christianity, pp. 176-177), as was his statement that "Christ fulfills both Paganism and Judaism..." (Reflections on the Psalms, p. 129) Lewis believed that we're to become "gods," and apparent affirmation of theistic evolution. He also believed the Book of Job is "unhistorical" (Reflections on the Psalms, pp.110), and that the Bible contained "error" (pp. 110, 112) and is not divinely inspired (The Inklings, p. 175). Lewis used profanities, told bawdy stories and frequently got drunk with his students (5/19/90, World magazine).
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Bibliology
"I have the deepest respect for Pagan myths, still more for myths in the Holy Scriptures" (PP, p. 71).
[Looking at page 6 of 8, close to the end of that page, one can see that Narnai apparently was not by design Christian allegory. Read what C.S. Lewis had to say, in his own words...]
[One can alo read the section entitled Occult Fantasy on page 5 0f 8]
At http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/cslewis.htm
..."At age 58, the long time bachelor C.S. Lewis married Joy Gresham. She met Lewis in England, returned to the States and was divorced from her husband, then traveled back to England to marry Lewis. According to two of Lewis's friends, Gresham's husband divorced her on the grounds of desertion (Roger Lancelyn Green & Walter Hooper, Light on C.S. Lewis).
In the book A Severe Mercy by Sheldon Van Auken, a personal letter is reproduced on page 191 in which Lewis suggests to Van Auken that upon his next visit to England that the two of them "must have some good, long talks together and perhaps we shall both get high." In light of this, it is interesting that in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Lewis's fantasy children's tale, a hero named Edmund meets a magical witch who conjures up for him a box of Turkish Delight, which Edmund devours and begs for more. Turkish Delight is a name for hashish.
A must read!
Here's the aforementioned link:
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/cslewisand.htm
One should take the time to read both articles. What one finds there concerning Lewis, in my opinion, isn't good.
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Gotta love it.
Posted by maestro to timsbella; All On General/Chat ^ 12/12/2005 7:03:26 AM PST · 12 of 22 ^
'Narnia' has NOTHING to do with Hanukkah or Christianity,....it is an 'Amalakite-Philistine'....enemy-pagan myth relic.....it is another of the Gnostic Enemy Hypnotic Temple-school indoctrinations against the real Biblical Echud-Trinity.
You can't have a 'kosher' sacrifice with an 'unclean-Lion'.....it takes a God-LAMB,.....WOODEN-Altar-CROSS-Etz-Chiam-TREE for the curse and bearing of SIN,....the Incarnation of the only SON of God,....and a WRITTEN Promise-Contract from God HIMSELF of imputed Personal-Righteousness from a PERSONAL GOD and.....the Only BIBLE from God....the 66 books.
All religions are NOT 'one'.......and the same.....
There is NO roar into nothingness,.....Creator-Redeemer-PERSONAL-GOD-HAS-ALWAYS-EXISTED....
But that some people may belong to Christ without knowing it? I mean, come on.
Lewis apparently did not believe in the doctrine of the total depravity of man, either, found under the section: Anthropology.
According to Dr. W. Wesley Shrader, First Baptist Church, Lewisburg Pennsylvania, warned that "C.S. Lewis...would never embrace the (literal-infalliable) view of the Bible" and "would accept no theory on the "total depravity of man'" (F.B.F. News Bulletin, Fundamental Baptist Fellowship, March 4, 1984).
Lewis wasn't an evangelical and had beliefs with which I very much disagree. But I value his work a great deal. I believe that there is a lot of room within Christianity for various beliefs as long as they are founded on the fact that we are sinful man and need what Christ regained for us on the cross to put us into relationship with God again. Now I don't belief that all the various beliefs are true, mind you. But I believe God does not insist on our earthly perfection--which includes believing everything about Him exactly right--as long as we claim Christ's death as necessary for our salvation.
Interesting. On one hand, many Christians credit C. S. Lewis for convincing them of the truths of Christianity. On the other hand, we have a group of Christians claiming that he wasn't really a "true" Christian.
Denominationalism is the scourge of Christianity. So many different doctrinal approaches to the same religion. And more are being founded almost daily.
I've had conversations with many Christian leaders during my life. I always hoped to speak with C. S. Lewis one day, but never had an opportunity. Too bad. It would have been a fascinating conversation, I am certain.
Wrong. Lewis's book Narnia, The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe, was steeped in the occult, IMHO. Also, did you check out the info concerning the 'Turkish Delight' found in his book?
All one has to do is read all the info I posted, at both links. If you were to do this, even you might change your opinion about him. But then again...
Concerning 'Narnia': "At first there wasn't even anything Christian about them; that element pushed itself in of its own accord."(Of Other Worlds, p. 36)
Lewis is an entertaining writer. His book "Mere Christianity" is a "parlor trick" often carried out by Catholic Theologians for centuries. Lewis's central argument is that all man understand the difference between good and evil. As such it is a universal truth that could only have been made by God. Therefore, there is a God. He is rewriting old Aristotelean Medieval arguments attempting to deduce the existence of God to provide an axiom for the rest that follows.
This is the practice that made Martin Luther revolt. To Martin Luther, Faith was the basis for belief not reason.
Meanwhile, Pagans did and still do exist. Evolution is backed up with credible evidence. Intelligent Design is a rehash of the old Medieval practice of trying to deduce the existence of God. Good luck. There are many ways to have a fruitful life. Proving the unprovable is not one of them. Make it easy on yourself, either accept or deny your belief on the basis of Faith.
Denominationalism is the scourge of Christianity?
No, false doctrine being propogated is the cause of so many denominations popping up. Denominations are the reaction to the false doctrines so prevalent...even within one particular 'church' in general.
Wow, I apologize for the messed up paste in that past one...Thats what I get for working on two at once.. Ignore the first italics section and forgetting to close the last italics tag.
LOL Nothing like a an article chock full of misinformation to cause some controversy.
"No, false doctrine being propogated is the cause of so many denominations popping up. Denominations are the reaction to the false doctrines so prevalent...even within one particular 'church' in general."
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