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1 posted on 12/12/2005 5:11:49 AM PST by Puppage
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To: Puppage

Where did Oxford find enough trained surveyors who speak the language?


2 posted on 12/12/2005 5:16:54 AM PST by saveliberty (Okay, I can't find the feed? Can someone please ask Senator Ted to stand up? Oh, better not.)
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To: Puppage
It's increasingly difficulty to take any of these polls seriously. The mainstream media has invested in US failure and seems desperate to vindicate themselves by any means necessary. The MSM has lost all credibility.
3 posted on 12/12/2005 5:18:51 AM PST by dropzone
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Is it disapprove of the presence of U.S. forces in their country OR do they look forward to when Iraqi troops guard and protect their own country??

Wonder what the exact wording in the question was


4 posted on 12/12/2005 5:18:55 AM PST by Mo1 (Message to Democrats .... We do not surrender and run from a fight !!)
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To: Puppage

"Poll: Most Iraqis oppose presence of U.S. troops, optimistic about future "

Uh-hu. Says Who?


5 posted on 12/12/2005 5:21:55 AM PST by RoadTest (Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem. - Psalm 51:18)
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To: Puppage
WHOA, HOLD ON A SECOND...

The headline says:

Poll: Most Iraqis oppose presence of U.S. troops, optimistic about future

Yet the article says this:

A fourth of those surveyed, 26 percent, say U.S. forces should leave now, and another 19 percent say troops should leave after those chosen in this week's election take office. The other half say U.S. troops should stay until security is restored, 31 percent, until Iraqi forces can operate independently, 16 percent, or longer, 5 percent.

By their own measure, 52% want US troops to STAY until security is restored! And, adding the 19% who want US troops to stay through elections, that means an overwhelming 71% APPROVE of US troop presence for the time being!!

Yet most anti-war lefties will read the headline and view it as support for the Murthas and Deans of the world who keep repeating this bogus idea that Iraqis want the US out right now.

Is there any better example (today at least) of how the MSM uses headlines to manipulate the same weak-minded buffoons who form their world view on reading bumper stickers?
7 posted on 12/12/2005 5:34:00 AM PST by Democracy In Iraq (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: Puppage

"Oppose" as "we wish they never came" or "oppose" as in "we look forward to the day we don't need these heroes to protect us"?


8 posted on 12/12/2005 5:46:31 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Puppage
The poll was conducted by Oxford Research International face-to-face with 1,711 Iraqis age 15 and over from Oct. 8 to Nov. 22. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus 2.5 percentage points. THIS IN ITSELF SPEAKS VOLUMES!!!
10 posted on 12/12/2005 6:08:17 AM PST by jos65
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A fourth of those surveyed, 26 percent, say U.S. forces should leave now, and another 19 percent say troops should leave after those chosen in this week's election take office. The other half say U.S. troops should stay until security is restored, 31 percent, until Iraqi forces can operate independently, 16 percent, or longer, 5 percent.

Once again, less than a half of Iraqis calls for an immidiate withdraw, meaning that for a certain amount of time, the majority of Iraqis "tolerates" coalition force presence, even there were lack of thrust they have for US. In other words, "realism". Democrats should face the reality that Iraqis still feels a need of US military presence, and that Iraqis are not calling for an :immidiate" withdraw. It is our responsibility to clean up the mess, and we can't have the job unfinished risking chance of terrorists having a safe ground in Iraq to launch attacks on US.
11 posted on 12/12/2005 8:02:58 AM PST by Wiz
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Not many want to have their country occupied by a foreign military but Iraqis would like it far less if that military was jihadist.


13 posted on 12/12/2005 8:05:25 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Puppage

Not stated but in the same poll -

Specifically, 26 percent of Iraqis say U.S. and other coalition forces should “leave now”
and another 19 percent say they should go after the government chosen in this week’s
election takes office;

that adds to 45 percent. Roughly the other half say coalition forces
should remain until security is restored (31 percent), until Iraqi security forces can
operate independently (16 percent) or longer (five percent).

Slightly biased reporting from actual poll
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/1000MethodologyNote.pdf


14 posted on 12/12/2005 8:11:15 AM PST by Smartaleck
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