[Aquinasfan]

Blah, blah, blah...

Just posting this in case anyone was wondering if VOTF was anything other than the Voice of the Heretics.

[Aussie Dasher]

Sorry. I thought this thread was a VOTE on the subject.

Methinks it must be bedtime...

[Desdemona]

Why do they insist on coming out? That in and of itself supports the Vatican's stance.

[Tax-chick]

What a surprise (ack!).

[MSSC6644]

I know a number of "gay" Jesuits. I may even be related to one. I don't know. My difficulty is that those I know were good priests, wonderful men. Some still are. But in the last 20 or 30 years, they seem to have misplaced the concept of God first. We must pray for them.

[thegreatbeast]

Quit the priesthood, fagalah.

[Lucky Dog]

I am coming out as a gay, chaste [emphasis mine] Jesuit priest because it hurts too much not to.

There is no such thing as a “chaste gay” (meaning homosexual). By definition, the terms, gay or homosexual, are defined by behavior. Absent homosexual behavior, no one is a homosexual or so-called “gay.” By way of comparison, there is no such thing as a chaste rapist or a chaste pedophile (other terms defined by behavior).

This article is nothing more than a not-so-subtle attempt to control the debate by controlling language. By blurring the definitions, one side of the debate is attempting to control the debate. The sad part of this strategy is that it is working because so many people are lacking a real education in critical thinking (logic), rhetoric and grammar.

Unfortunately, until our society regains control of the educational institution, this type of argument will continue to be effective.

[indcons]

"You might be interested in this article" ping

[1stFreedom]

>>I am coming out as a gay, chaste Jesuit priest because

That's the problem this priest doesn't get. He shouldn't identify as being gay. The problem is he is identifying himself as being gay and a priest, instead of a priest who has homosexual struggles.

Is is no doubt that a priest who identifies himself as being gay will not be of help to those who struggle with it?

[lastchance]

This man lost my respect when he opened by putting " gay " as his primary identity. First and foremost a priest should be a priest. Secondly guess what the paper addressed homosexuals in seminaries-that is why it did not address heterosexuals. Though its remarks on the duty of the priesthood applies to all priests.
VOTF are dissenters who very often skate on the thin ice of heresy.