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Arizona bishops release dramatic letter on immigration
CNA ^ | 12.09.05

Posted on 12/10/2005 1:30:46 PM PST by Coleus

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To: Coleus

The federal government should remove tax-exempt status from law-breaking churches whether they be catholic or protestant.


41 posted on 12/10/2005 3:33:10 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: Mogollon

They should

the catholic ones which support harboring illegals

and the protestant ones which allow democrat politicians who campaign from the pulpit.


42 posted on 12/10/2005 3:35:04 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

Compare if you will the nations of Central and South America and the Phillippines that have strong Spanish Catholic origin and history and the USA.

The USA was largely built by Protestants who were experiencing the Reformation and the French enlightenment.

America can be said to be the shining example of both. When freed from the Roman Catholic church great things happen. When stifled by its influence there is stagnation as in the Central/South and the Philippines.


43 posted on 12/10/2005 3:43:20 PM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: bert

if it weren't for Columbus and Vespucci there wouldn't be an America.


44 posted on 12/10/2005 3:53:31 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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Goodness, you would think this was turning into a recruiting thread for a Chick Fan Club.


45 posted on 12/10/2005 4:57:11 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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To: bert
I was chastised earlier on FR for warning that the Catholic church was America's worst enemy.
Right you are! Too late, though. We control you already ! A Knight of Columbus behind every corner, a Jesuit in every faculty, billions of unwashed evil mindcontrolled voters behind each of our politicians!

And once we control the SC, too, its only a matter of time. Look how brilliantly we engineered the demise of that protestant SC candidate recently - without any trace back to us. A word in the right ears here and there, a few discrete heaps of money to the right organizations, and furious protestants emerge from all sides to drive that woman back where she belongs.

And, what a miracle, a few days later, another Jesuit educated catholic judge comes ourt of nowhere, to be the only acceptable contender for the post. Still, Scalia is under orders to play the independent thinker, but rest assured, his loyalties to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church is as trusworthy as ever.

I just love a good conspiracy....
46 posted on 12/10/2005 5:49:10 PM PST by Tullius
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To: Coleus

"We must find a way to bring them out of the shadows and incorporate them into society,” said the bishops."

Yeah, right man! Good luck Father.


47 posted on 12/10/2005 7:21:55 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I think we discussed this article on FR a few days ago:

Most Mexican Immigrants in New Study Gave Up Jobs to Take Their Chances in U.S.

These immigrants are not economic refugees who were starving in Mexico but simply people who are greedy to make more money and who were willing to break our law to get it. I think Catholicism has something to say about that kind of behavior"

Maledictus qui transfert terminos proximi sui et dicet omnis populus amen

Which translates to:

Deuteronomy Chapter 27:17. Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmarks: and all the people shall say: Amen.

I believe this is normally understood as the 10th of the Ten Commandments: Thou shall not covet they neighbor's property.

48 posted on 12/11/2005 7:24:19 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: jackbenimble

Folks, we have a WINNER !!


49 posted on 12/11/2005 7:34:43 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


50 posted on 12/11/2005 1:50:43 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Hang 'em High!

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


51 posted on 12/11/2005 2:40:09 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Coleus
The bishops of Arizona are calling on Catholics to welcome immigrants into their parishes, whether documented or undocumented, and to work to reform the U.S. immigration laws in an effort to facilitate immigration and stem the growing number of migrant deaths at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Perhaps the good bishops would like to pray for the Americans killed by illegal alien  drunk drivers  and the victims of  rapes  prepetrated by illegal aliens. When they're done praying for these victime they can do some penance for aiding and abetting these criminals and then STFU.

52 posted on 12/11/2005 3:48:45 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: NHResident
This letter is pure BS by deluded, socialist, economically ignorant clergy.

But they do have something in common with president Bush. They too, must believe in a "new America".

​We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

53 posted on 12/11/2005 3:56:05 PM PST by raybbr
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To: NHResident

The last thing they are is economically ignorant. They know who fills the donation boxes and who gives to the special funds. All organized religions know the dollar is second only to the Saviour.


54 posted on 12/11/2005 4:04:34 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Coleus
Start building the fence.

It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.
55 posted on 12/11/2005 4:23:50 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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To: conservativehistorian
"...vicious anti-Catholism..."

I hear you, yet I suggest you hang in and tell it like you see it. Any who strongly criticize the Catholic Church had their own reasons before the AZ bishops spoke out.

I don't object to thoughtful questioning. Blame it on our God-given brains, I guess.

Along with these questions, though, the Catholic Church deserves praise for any and all good it has done. Let's not throw the good out with the not-so-good.

56 posted on 12/11/2005 4:40:42 PM PST by IIntense (,)
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“the needs of immigrants must be measured against the needs of the receiving countries, and that the rights of these nations must not be exaggerated to the point of denying access to needy people from other countries.”

This feller's got a good idea...It's claimed there is billions in gold in and under the Vatican...Let's round these illegal criminals up and send them to Italy...I say let the 'church' give back a little of what it pulls in...After all, I'm a very compassionate person...

57 posted on 12/11/2005 6:04:17 PM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: Coleus

If they want them here, they should have to support them 100%. They do not. Catholic Charities is responsible for a lot of this illegal pandering...

In Los Angeles, they started the day labor camps. Now they are tired of paying to keep them going and the taxpayers are having these centers dumped in their lap.


58 posted on 12/11/2005 6:05:19 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Coleus

Shame shame shame on the Catholic Church of Arizona


59 posted on 12/11/2005 6:07:03 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: bert
The vatican is no different than Al Queda in it's desire to take over the world.

Consider putting "PLEASE IGNORE ALL MY STUPID POSTS" on your home page.

60 posted on 12/11/2005 6:08:37 PM PST by steve86 (@)
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