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Bush Urges Business to Protect Pensions
Yahoo! News ^ | 12/6/05 | DEB RIECHMANN

Posted on 12/05/2005 12:01:51 PM PST by libertarianPA

KERNERSVILLE, N.C. - President Bush called on American businesses on Monday to live up to their pension promises, saying too many companies are not putting away enough money to protect the retirement benefits of their workers.

"My message to corporate America is you need to fulfill your promises," Bush said. "When you say to a worker, `This is what they're going get when they retire,' you better put enough money in the account to make sure the worker gets that what you said."

In a speech on the economy, the president said federal rules governing pensions are confusing and misleading and allow companies to technically play by the rules without funding the promises they make. In the end, taxpayers wind up footing the bill because of federal pension insurance, he said.

"So Congress needs to straighten up these rules," Bush said. Members of his economic team said pension-reform legislation moving through Congress is not tough enough. "And I'm not going to sign a bill that weakens pension funding for the American workers," Bush said.

The president made his remarks in a speech before a friendly audience at the Deere-Hitachi Construction Machinery Corp. in Kernersville, N.C.

Trying to calm Americans' anxieties about the economy, Bush said the economy is growing and added 215,000 jobs in November. He called on Congress to extend tax cuts that are due to expire, and urged passage of long-pending health and energy legislation.

"This economy is strong and the best days are yet to come for the American economy," Bush said.

Bush's approval on handling the economy was at 37 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll in early November, the lowest rating yet on the economy. More recent public polls have shown a solid majority of Americans have a pessimistic view of the health of the economy these days despite signs that it has been gaining strength after blows delivered by the hurricanes this fall and a spike in energy prices.

But public opinion analysts have suggested that uncertainty about the war in Iraq is affecting the public's mood in other areas, such as their view of the economy.

The administration went on a public relations offensive, with Treasury Secretary John Snow and Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez planning speeches on the economy later this week. Snow, Gutierrez and Labor Secretary Elaine Chao wrote a Nov. 21 op-ed piece in The New York Times about pensions problems.

The article said legislation emerging from Senate negotiations would relax rather than strengthen funding rules for pensions, while a bill moving through the House was weakened by the long transition period it allows before tighter funding requirements take effect.

"Unless these bills are strengthened, they could result in weaker pension funding that increases the potential that workers will lose benefits and taxpayers will have to bail out the pension insurance program," the article said.

"It's no secret that some companies don't want to pay more to support their pension promises," the article by Chao, Snow and Gutierrez said. "It's also no secret that labor unions would rather bargain for new wages than ask companies to fund benefits their members already have."

"But even if the pension insurance system picks up the bill if promises can't be kept, rank-and-file workers — and potentially taxpayers — ultimately pay the price for this behavior; just ask any United Airlines retiree whose pension was reduced to the maximum federal guarantee," the article said.

"Similarly, responsible employers are harmed, because their insurance premiums must be increased to pay off the pension insurance agency's deficit," the article said. "We must not kick this problem down the road by extending that temporary relief while further postponing reforms. The problem continues to grow and more workers' pensions are at risk."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: corporateamerica; georgebush; northcarolina; pensions; socialsecurity
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When you say to a worker, `This is what they're going get when they retire,' you better put enough money in the account to make sure the worker gets that what you said."

I'm sorry. Don't we have a Medicare system that is about to collapse and a Social Security program that isn't far behind?

Hello? Kettle? This is George Bush. You're black!
1 posted on 12/05/2005 12:01:52 PM PST by libertarianPA
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To: libertarianPA

LOL. You beat me to it.


2 posted on 12/05/2005 12:12:05 PM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: libertarianPA

Bush has at least tried to get some meaningful reform of social security. He can't just dictate that the reforms be implemented, and you can be darn sure the democrats won't allow anything that might weaken their grip on all the folks they want to keep dependant on Uncle Sam's largesse.


3 posted on 12/05/2005 12:16:20 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: libertarianPA
Members of his economic team said pension-reform legislation moving through Congress is not tough enough.

This is a state matter under the Constitution, not a federal matter.

4 posted on 12/05/2005 12:19:21 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: VRWCmember
Bush has at least tried to get some meaningful reform of social security.

If you want to call making a few speeches and then backing down when the Dems fought back, "trying," then yes... he tried.

In the same vain, Bill Clinton also "tried" when he made speeches in the 90s.

the democrats won't allow anything that might weaken their grip on all the folks they want to keep dependant on Uncle Sam's largesse.

I'm sorry. Who just passed the Medicare prescription drug plan? Republicans, right? Or did I dream that?

Speeches don't mean anything to me anymore. Until I see a real conservative step up to the plate and say, NO MORE, there's no difference to me between a Republican and a Democrat... at least from an economic standpoint.
5 posted on 12/05/2005 12:21:35 PM PST by libertarianPA
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To: inquest

No kidding; yet another federal program jammed through the Commerce Clause with the ramrod of the Necessary and Proper Clause.


6 posted on 12/05/2005 12:21:42 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: libertarianPA

"Hello? Kettle? This is George Bush. You're black!"

And since one is broken, we should ignore it all?
Or maybe this is an attempt to fix SOMETHING?


7 posted on 12/05/2005 12:25:23 PM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: inquest
Then the state can pick up the tab when the companies default on them, other than that the fed's (taxpayer's) should have a say on how things are run.
8 posted on 12/05/2005 12:25:47 PM PST by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: libertarianPA
"If one gains victory in battle and is successful in attacks, but does not exploit those achievements, it is disastrous. This is called waste and delay."

-Sun Tzu

So... why did we win both houses of Congress AND the White House again?

9 posted on 12/05/2005 12:26:59 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: brownsfan

I fail to see an attempt to fix anything.


10 posted on 12/05/2005 12:31:08 PM PST by libertarianPA
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To: Gordongekko909
So... why did we win both houses of Congress AND the White House again?

So we could bend over, take it from the Dems, and say, "Thank you, may I have another?"
11 posted on 12/05/2005 12:32:16 PM PST by libertarianPA
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To: libertarianPA

Seems so.


12 posted on 12/05/2005 12:32:40 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: libertarianPA

HR 2380 calls for fully funded pension funds and a RAISE in the federal insurance premiums. Something seems wrong with this picture.


13 posted on 12/05/2005 12:33:27 PM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: libertarianPA

The only pension plans not in any real danger of collasping are government workers pension plans. All they need to do is raise more taxes to cover the shortfall.


14 posted on 12/05/2005 12:33:36 PM PST by rawhide
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To: CSM
Something seems wrong with this picture.

You mean the picture of saps like us who keep voting these so called, "conservatives" into office just so they can act like Democrats? No. That picture is crystal clear.
15 posted on 12/05/2005 12:36:13 PM PST by libertarianPA
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To: Gordongekko909; libertarianPA

We would be OK with a conservative in the Whitehouse, but we have Jorge Arbusto the last of the great Rockefeller Republicans.


16 posted on 12/05/2005 12:36:49 PM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: libertarianPA

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I don't begrudge the President, but then I don't think he ever claimed to be a true conservative. I think it is clear that he is a moderate. Almost makes me want to stay home on election day......


17 posted on 12/05/2005 12:39:32 PM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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To: CSM
Almost makes me want to stay home on election day......

Bad idea. I'll take a moderate over a leftie any day of the week. Lesser of two evils, marginal benefit, etc.

18 posted on 12/05/2005 12:40:45 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Gordongekko909

I used to think that way. But I am beginning to think that the quicker we let the lefties destroy this nation, the quicker we will get to fix it. Why allow the right to get blamed for the moderate destruction?

Keep in mind that my criticism stems from domestic issues only, I have no issue with the handling of WOT by GWB.


19 posted on 12/05/2005 12:43:34 PM PST by CSM (When laws are written, they apply to ALL...Not just the yucky people you don't like. - HairOfTheDog)
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20 posted on 12/05/2005 12:44:31 PM PST by Alia
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