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Big boost to battlefield operations [tank-based "shotgun" round!]
U.S. Army Public Affairs ^ | December 5, 2005 | Wakeland Kuamoo

Posted on 12/05/2005 11:02:45 AM PST by 68skylark

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To: 68skylark

50 pounds of roofing nails is a lot of nails. Why would they suggest roofing nails instead of finishing nails or ordinary sinkers?


41 posted on 12/05/2005 11:34:35 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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To: 68skylark

"40-60 pounds of nails for a 155."
I can imagine the media and the ACLU getting all jacked up about something like that, but during Tet, combat got very up close and personal. A friend of mine beat a sapper to death with an entrenching tool-not a recommended use of that particular implement!


42 posted on 12/05/2005 11:35:15 AM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: Max in Utah

I was wondering if the cannister round causes increased ware in the chamber of the gun?

if so it may be a factor in the delay to implement.


43 posted on 12/05/2005 11:35:25 AM PST by GoforBroke
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To: Max in Utah; verity; wardaddy; Squantos; Eaker; humblegunner; hiredhand; New Dog

Need one of these for the house...


44 posted on 12/05/2005 11:39:53 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: English Nationalist
I was talking specifically about canister as a type of tank shell

Okay. Never mind.

45 posted on 12/05/2005 11:40:59 AM PST by IronJack
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To: GoforBroke

"I was wondering if the cannister round causes increased ware in the chamber of the gun?"

I doubt it because it is a smooth bore gun designed for the screaming velocities needed for the maximum effectiveness of the depleted uranium penetrators. These canister rounds could be pretty hot and still mild compared to the anti-tank rounds. In the chamber itself the shot should not touch the metal judging from the illustration.


46 posted on 12/05/2005 11:41:32 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (France kicked Germany's teeth out at Verdun among other places.)
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To: English Nationalist

they reinvent the gattlinggun and now grapeshot


47 posted on 12/05/2005 11:41:51 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (admittedly too unstable for public office)
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To: English Nationalist
Now microprocessor controlled 1,200 tungsten balls

http://proceedings.ndia.org/5560/Thursday/Session_IV-A/Friedberg.pdf
48 posted on 12/05/2005 11:42:25 AM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: 68skylark
Hm. Let's see; a shotgun gauge is the number of lead balls the diameter of the gun's barrel that it takes to weigh 1 lb. Lead is 11340 Kg/m3. This cannon is 120 mm in diameter. My math says that this is a .023 ga. shotgun.
49 posted on 12/05/2005 11:45:58 AM PST by RonF
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To: xcamel

Wow, an 0.001 gauge deer load. Pretty kewl. Ouch!


50 posted on 12/05/2005 11:46:30 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: English Nationalist
I was talking specifically about canister as a type of tank shell

Ah, yes. In that case you are, of course, correct.

51 posted on 12/05/2005 11:47:06 AM PST by Kenton (The worst tragedy that ever befell Africa was the end of colonialism.)
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To: RightWhale

I would think a roofing nail would have a mighty spin (big head and all).


52 posted on 12/05/2005 11:47:18 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: BadAndy
Allah: "Attention: paging all remaining virgins to the reception area immediately."
53 posted on 12/05/2005 11:48:01 AM PST by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)
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To: Infantry Grunt 1968-69

You beat me to it.


54 posted on 12/05/2005 11:48:06 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub.)
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To: 68skylark

I love it ....it should be used on Saddam and his entire entourage of lawyers


55 posted on 12/05/2005 11:49:21 AM PST by injin
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To: edchambers
Now if they'll bring back the 40mm shot shell for the M203 we'll be in business.

IIRC, there were problems with trying to fire the shot-shell from the M203 (M-16 barrel was within dispersion pattern of shotgun round of underslung M203), which is why units in VN tried to hang on to their M79s.

56 posted on 12/05/2005 11:49:40 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: OkieDoke

Tungsten is more dense than steel, holding energy more efficiently at longer ranges.


57 posted on 12/05/2005 11:50:04 AM PST by saleman
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To: 68skylark
Image hosted by Photobucket.com or a street sweeper with a 20mm GAU-4 or a 30mm GAU-8...
58 posted on 12/05/2005 11:50:51 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: OkieDoke
Why tungsten?

Speculation: Better penetration of light cover. This round will probably shred thin-skinned vehicles, walls, trees, thin berms, etc.

Not to mention shredding BGs.

59 posted on 12/05/2005 11:52:43 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RightWhale
Why would they suggest roofing nails instead of finishing nails or ordinary sinkers?

That's a fine question. At Ft. Sill they just told us to use roofing nails. But I guess if things got real bad I'd be creative and reach for anything I could get my hands on -- maybe that's really what they were trying to teach us.

60 posted on 12/05/2005 11:53:21 AM PST by 68skylark
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