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New row breaks out over face transplant (Donor and recipient had both attempted suicide)
The Guardian ^
| Monday December 5, 2005
| Kim Willsher
Posted on 12/05/2005 7:26:49 AM PST by Grig
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posted on
12/05/2005 7:26:51 AM PST
by
Grig
To: Grig
Ultimate horror:
Getting a face transplant from Cindy Sheehan.
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posted on
12/05/2005 7:29:41 AM PST
by
capt. norm
(Beware of the "White-Flag Democrats"...we all know who they are.)
To: Grig
As she lay unconscious, part of her nose, her mouth and chin were bitten off by her Labrador-cross dog, Tania. Note: next time get a cat.
To: capt. norm
Ultimate horror #2:
A liver transplant from Ted Kennedy.
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posted on
12/05/2005 7:30:37 AM PST
by
capt. norm
(Beware of the "White-Flag Democrats"...we all know who they are.)
To: Grig
"The donor, whose name has not been released, was said to have been of a similar age and from the same area as Ms Dinoire. She had hanged herself. Permission for the transplant was given by her family after she was declared brain dead."
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posted on
12/05/2005 7:30:55 AM PST
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: Grig
New row breaks out over face transplant (Donor and recipient had both attempted suicide)Doesn't seem like a problem unless the donor attempted suicide by repeatedly whacking his face against a wall.
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posted on
12/05/2005 7:31:55 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(Proudly Lying About My Sign-Up Date Since 1998)
To: capt. norm
Ultimate horror#3:
Colon transplant from Barney Frank.
To: Right Brother
How about a penis graft from john bobbit?
To: Grig
Last night, on the other thread, they were denying that the recipient had attempted suicide.
If there's such a thing as "cellular memory," as has been speculated due to people with organ transplants suddenly acquiring a taste for foods previously disliked or developing a love for motorcycles where none existed prior to surgery, only to find out that the donor had a taste for those foods or loved motorcycles ... well, let's just say that suicide donor and suicide recipient doesn't sound like a long term proposition. It also sounds like a rush to glory, to be the first to perform the surgery, with little to no regard for the psychological state of the patient.
To: JustAnotherOkie
Face transplant from Helen Thomas or a butt transplant from Shrillary?
To: RegulatorCountry
developing a love for motorcycles where none existed prior to surgery One of my favorite t-shirts: "If I could ride my wife as much as I ride my motorcycle I would be home right now."
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posted on
12/05/2005 7:44:29 AM PST
by
killjoy
(Real Men Love Bush)
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To: bobbdobbs
"How is the psychological state of the patient improved by having a chewed off face?"
It's not "improved" at all. However, subjecting a psychologically unstable person to having the face of another person is asking for big problems. If she actually did try to kill herself, and learns that what is now part of her came from another who succeeded in killing herself, she's going to be a real mess despite having her face made "whole" again.
This thing just feels wrong, from the just-doesn't-add-up story about how the woman was injured, to persistent reports of attempted suicide, to the donor being a successful suicide, to the doctors having apparently ignored completely any extenuating circumstances.
It really doesn't sound as if this will come to a good end to me.
To: capt. norm
"Now, the physicians involved are scrambling to save face."
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:43:39 AM PST
by
Erasmus
(Getting captivated by modern music leads to Stockhausen Syndrome.)
To: Grig
did they murder the donor after the operation or did they leave it to live out it's existence without a face???
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posted on
12/05/2005 8:44:06 AM PST
by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: Grig
"Alors! Alors!" Dr. Hirsch was heard to cry out. "My bottom has not been properly kissed!"
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To: bobbdobbs
"So there doesn't seem to be any ethical questions."
We'll just have to disagree on that one. To me, this whole episode represents an ethical lapse.
To: RegulatorCountry
It also sounds like a rush to glory, to be the first to perform the surgery, with little to no regard for the psychological state of the patient
Nonsense. They are trying to help a woman who lost her face. All of the objections come from the psychology crowd who didn't get to make a buck from this poor woman. How would you feel if you lost your face?
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posted on
12/05/2005 9:03:27 AM PST
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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