NIGERGATE: UPDATE - FBI AND SISMI TO INVESTIGATE FOREIGN, INCLUDING US, CITIZENS

12/03/2005

[parnasokan]

NIGERGATE: UPDATE - FBI AND SISMI TO INVESTIGATE FOREIGN, INCLUDING US, CITIZENS

Yet another Italian news agency is reporting the latest news on the Nigergate front. This is hot, really hot. According to AGI following the decision to conduct a joint inquiry (FBI-SISMI) “satisfaction and the absolute will to collaborate” has been expressed by a number of Italian government and intelligence sources. According to one SISMI source “its about a precise line of inquiry that we indicated”, a line of inquiry that “stimulated enormous interest in a number of institutions including the FBI whom we have been working with since 2003”. This collaboration has already produced results and, according to the intelligence source, “will most probably identify and attribute responsibilities in a very short time”. The investigations are also focused on understanding the role played by a number of individuals of diverse nationalities, including Americans, who are considered to have interacted with those at the heart of the matter. What are we going to see? In particular the investigations will aim at naming those involved and revealing their ‘hidden agendas’. So we have in front of us an investigation that’s going to tell us who produced the forgeries and who attempted to use the Nigergate affair to damage their own and allied governments. Stay tuned !!!

[Southack]

"The investigations are also focused on understanding the role played by a number of individuals of diverse nationalities, including Americans, who are considered to have interacted with those at the heart of the matter."

Valerie Plame can't forever keep secret the rogue CIA involvement in this French forgery setup.

[Sacajaweau]

btt

[the Real fifi]

Do you have a cite to this article, please?

[Cicero]

I don't know what this is linked to, but there have been a lot of other articles in the Italian press blaming French intelligence and the CIA. I'm sure the Italians would like to put the blame where it belongs and get it off their own backs where the French have been trying to put it.

The problem is, Bush has shown zero desire to look into any of these crimes.

Clinton corrupted the FBI as well as the CIA. Under Mueller, nothing has been done to fix the FBI problems. In fact Mueller has rewarded the clintonoids and promoted them. We have seen in several recent cases that it's the same old clintonoid FBI which refuses to investigate the Oklahoma terrorists or yesterday's missile firing at an airliner.

So how likely is it that they will report back with the truth, since they don't seem to want to know the truth? It's the same clintonoid see no evil, hear no evil. Sorry to be so pessimistic, but this pattern has been consistent for the past five years.

[MilleniumBug]

Saturday 3 December 2005
Niger-gate / The Fbi reopens the investigation, the Sismi are nearly done
Mario Sechi

The Fbi reopens the investigation on the letters on the traffic of uranium between Niger and Irak. The news published on the Los Angeles Times was confirmed by an anonymous source of the Bureau. The democrats' pressures in Senate have reached this and it was not difficult to foresee it. From some part the American administration had to surrender and he has preferred to do it on the front of the "Niger documents" rather than on the role of the Pentagon where the lifted wall is so tall that the famous one "phase two" on the action of the intelligence in the pre-war has never departed and it is avowedly rather in a phase of stalemate.

In Italy for a long time the Sismi has led an investigation of counterespionage and the same manager of the Services, the general Nicolò Pollari, has spoken in front of the Copaco of it. The Sismi has made known that the Fbi  deals with the case "long suitable detective lines and developed by the Sismi that the Fbi has asked and jointly gotten to bring before." An investigation to verify "who and for what has tried to accredit responsibility in damage of Italian authority and consequently of the respectability and of the safety of the country and its institutions." The investigation of counterespionage started by the Sismi is practically concluded, we will see in little time of what is made the detective action of the United States and if besides the investigation it is shared also the final objective.

The Los Angeles Times in reality makes to think that the objective is the Sismi and we is not quite amazed of it. Who writes it doesn't seem to have much familiarity with the investigation on the Italian front, so muchso that the colonel of the Sismi Anthony Nucera becomes Nucero. Little evil, have seen worse. The problem if it is that once more we will see a sense of information only where they dominate the sceneries conspirators and not the facts. Let's prepare us for another torment.

http://www.mariosechi.net/category/difesa-e-intelligence/

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Mario Sechi wonders whether the FBI will reach the same conclusion as the Italian Sismi but he seems more concerned that the media like the LA Times will misreport the story along the lines they have chosen so far -- the Jay Rockefeller/ Democratic Big Lie. 

[Just mythoughts]

bttt

[MilleniumBug]

Sunday 4 December 2005
“Repubblica” succeeds in misrepresenting also the Los Angeles Times that cites the Newspaper
Mario Sechi

Today the Repubblica offers to the readers in integral translation the article of the Los Angeles Times on Niger-gate. We do not lose any time trying to put order on an article where two American reporters short of acquaintance of the matter (more embedded to Rome) succeed in mystifying an interview made by the undersigned (Mario Sechi) and Gian Mark Chiocci with Rocco Martino (in the whole piece it is never said - never - that Martin was paid by the French and they contend that Martin was said to have received orders from Nucera), but to appraise the intellectual honesty of Republic  this small episode is enough. It qualifies in clear way as they work on Largo Fochetti.

This is the final part of the article in the Los Angeles Times.
After the Pollari testimony, Martino was quoted in an Italian newspaper as saying that he was working for the intelligence agency and not on his own. He acknowledged his role of "postman," as he put it, but said that his instructions were coming from Nucero.
"They did not make this thing up, " he was quoted as saying in the newspaper. "They didn't even know where Niger was."

This is the translation of the final passage on Repubblica today.
After the testimony made by Pollari, an Italian newspaper has reported that Martin has said to have worked on behalf of the intelligence agency, and not on his own account. He has admitted his role of "mail carrier" - to use his same expression - but he is said to have received instructions from Nucera.
The free translation of Republica ends here. What does it miss?
http://www.mariosechi.net/2005/12/

Sechi seems to be responding to the Italian article at:
http://www.repubblica.it/2005/j/sezioni/esteri/nigergate/indafbi/indafbi.html#
The Fbi reopens the Nigergate investigation,
"We want to feel the Italian spy"
byPETER WALLSTEN, TOM HAMBURGER and JOSH MEYER

[Just mythoughts]

Thanks.

I find it curious that Rockefeller is pushing the FBI to investigate this. There has to be something in it for 'his' side that he thinks will be the result.

[popdonnelly]

I expect Rockefeller to be disappointed. That won't stop his campaign against Bush.

[MilleniumBug]

At the moment the momentum is on the side exposing the French Connection which could be an embarassment to Rockefellers French conglomerate mining operations. The best defense is a good offense so he will try to push once more for the "Bush Lied" position aided by Italian spooks. I don't think he will get there but he may be able to take the spotlight off the French and get a draw once more where nobody is to blame but Martino.

[Just mythoughts]

There did seem to be something defensive about Rockefeller at his last interview on FOX. I still haven't figured out why he announced his all by himself trip to Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, I do not think it was on the prepared script but rather a lapse of self control.

[Marxbites]

If one really wants to delve into American history, it really pays to investigate Rockefeller/Std Oil and they revenge they took after the Std Oil breakup.

Basically they joined the club of the leftists and the social "uplifters" to ultimately beat them at there own game.

Jay's admission of tipping off our enemies in league with terrorists seems a hanging offense to me.

Dollars to donuts says this entire embroglio somehow ultimately enriches the Rockefeller dynasty and their vast oil interests just as much as they fomented the world wars.

[MilleniumBug]

There is a lot to chew on regarding the Rockefeller betrayal of America here:

http://www.acsa2000.net/

[Just mythoughts]

"Basically they joined the club of the leftists and the social "uplifters" to ultimately beat them at there own game."


That is the irony of the 'leftists' handbook some are more equal than the rest. There is but a slight difference in communism and capitalism both systems appear to meet each other on the dark side.

[Just mythoughts]

"There is a lot to chew on regarding the Rockefeller betrayal of America here:"


Thanks for the info. After reading this it does make sense that these who played these games with Saddam for their practical business purposes need to regain their stature (they could not save Saddam), as well as discover exactly what the "intel", (those 16 words) they keep harping about really is.

Could well be that they must discover exactly what British intel holds to see if their backside can be covered.

This reaffirms to me that Wilson more than likely went to his wife than she came to him. Wilson appears to be playing outside the sphere of the CIA than within and the CIA was the tool that gave Wilson 'credibility'.

Further if Wilson were to be from within the CIA sphere he would be less likely to be such a prominent face for a time on the JFKerry campaign.

[Marxbites]

There is nothing that approaches free market capitalism, it is the conerstone of liberty.

There are NO darksides to capitalism. But when Govt intervenes they despoil it.

Check these articles on how the revolving door between Industrialists and our once limited Govt began, but rarely taught us in our state run schools by self interested big govt promoters - union teachers and leftist professors.

I promise you won't regret the small effort.

http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/histn/histn045.htm

http://www.mises.org/freemarket_detail.asp?control=248&sortorder=articledate

http://praxeology.net/RC-BRS.htm

[Sacajaweau]

I believe the Rockefeller Bros are one of the chief contributors to the continuing "Private" enterprise starring Jamie Gorelick which just reviewed the 9-11 commissions recommendations.

Google "9-11 Public Discourse Project".

[Just mythoughts]

"There is nothing that approaches free market capitalism, it is the conerstone of liberty."

Thank you for the links.


I completely agree with the "free market" capitalism. However, not all capitalists are "free marketers". That is the dark-side I refer to.

[Marxbites]

I see said the blind man! You are correct and those articles will arm you immensely against leftwingnut socialists whose only argument for nearly a century has been that capitalism caused the Great Depression.

It most certainly did not, but greed, abuse of power and corruption of the constitution most certainly did.