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Man Charged With Attempted First Degree Homicide of an Unborn Child Pleads Guilty
WSAW TV 7 ^ | Amanda Lutz

Posted on 12/02/2005 10:19:27 AM PST by mukraker

In October, 25-year-old Robert Elliott pleaded guilty to four charges, including attempted first degree homicide of an unborn child. Thursday, he was sentenced for his crimes.

Lincoln County (WI) District Attorney Don Dunphy calls this case one of the most heinous and vicious crimes he's ever seen.

Back in January, 25-year-old Robert Elliott repeatedly beat his pregnant wife, intending to harm their unborn child, and abusing her in front of their children.

Prosecutors say Elliott's abuse caused major trauma to the fetus...his wife eventually miscarried.

He pleaded guilty to charges in October, and his reportedly violent outbursts were reason enough for Dunphy to go after the maximum penalty.

"His behavior is -- to say it's over the top, would be a diminutive statement -- but that's what it is, over the top. He's a dangerous man," Dunphy said at the sentence hearing.

But in court, Elliott's wife and mother both asked the judge to spare him of a long prison sentence, adding he's fine when on medication to control his anger.

Elliott personally apologized to his family for his actions, and said he's willing to change and break the abuse cycle.

With that information in mind, Judge Jay Tlusty sentenced him to 15 years behind bars, plus 33 on parole.

"I feel with 15 years confinement, you're going to make the changes you believe you're going to make. You'll be able to get the medication and the help you need," Tlusty told Elliott after he handed down the sentence.

At the earliest, Elliot will be eligible for parole in 2020.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: connerslaw; crime; domesticviolence; fetalrights; murder; unborn

1 posted on 12/02/2005 10:19:27 AM PST by mukraker
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To: mukraker
Practicing medicine without a license. A serious offense.

Bastard.

2 posted on 12/02/2005 10:22:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: jbeachgrl5

A little different than Hawaii, huh?


3 posted on 12/02/2005 10:24:44 AM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: mukraker

He shoulda done it in Hawaii. He'd be a free man! /sarcasm


4 posted on 12/02/2005 10:41:12 AM PST by Ignatz (I misunderstood you correctly the first time.)
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To: mukraker
"Back in January, 25-year-old Robert Elliott repeatedly beat his pregnant wife, intending to harm their unborn child, and abusing her in front of their children. Prosecutors say Elliott's abuse caused major trauma to the fetus...his wife eventually miscarried."

I'm confused. According to the U.S. Supreme Court the fetus is not a human being, and hence cannot be protected by Constitutional law. I understand them jailing the guy for attacking his wife, but a fetus is simply a clump of tissue, a "part of a woman's body". So how does the government put this guy away for harming a useless clump of tissue with no Constitutional protection?

Of course my question is rhetorical, but this all seems like a brazen, 'in-your-face' double standard to me. If she goes to a 'clinic' to have the baby's limbs torn off and its body disposed of in a dumpster, then the killer gets rewarded with a doctor's fee instead of being charged with murder. What this all really means is that American mother's have been given the legal authority to determine if their babies are human or not. Legalized abortion has got the be the greatest insult to God ever perpetrated by man.

5 posted on 12/02/2005 10:45:52 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: mukraker
"I feel with 15 years confinement, you're going to make the changes you believe you're going to make. You'll be able to get the medication and the help you need," Tlusty told Elliott after he handed down the sentence.

Judge Tlusty made a good call. Hopefully, his wife can rebuild her mind and realize that she's better off without her "husband".

6 posted on 12/02/2005 10:54:09 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: mukraker

About a week ago, a similar case was dismissed in another jurisdiction (California?) because the appeals court ruled the foetus was not a person.

How can it be murder in one state and not in another? Shouldn't this be resolved at the SCT?


7 posted on 12/02/2005 10:58:58 AM PST by wildbill
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To: TheCrusader
...which is why this case needs some national media attention. It's an actual case where a real person was actually charged with the crime of killing/harming a fetus, and the defendant pleaded guilty to the crime.

Oops, don't let the ACLU hear about this one.

8 posted on 12/02/2005 10:59:36 AM PST by mukraker
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To: TheCrusader

That's what pro-choice is:
The mother's choice to choose if your baby is a baby or fetus at any point during the pregnancy.
The mother's choice to deny the father his money for 18 years, with no choice being afforded the father to object.


9 posted on 12/02/2005 11:01:29 AM PST by MooseMan (Pro-choice: having your cake and eating it too.)
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To: TheCrusader

Murder, at least in this case, is a State crime, not a federal crime.

In Roe vs. Wade the supreme court miraculously invented a woman's right to an abortion that overruled state laws and any rights the unborn child might have in that case.

However, since does not fall under that narrow case where the supreme court ruled that the mother's rights are supreme, the bastard can be charged with first degree murder.

In my opinion he should have gotten the death sentence.


10 posted on 12/02/2005 11:09:18 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: mukraker
I have no sympathy for this bastard and for his crime, the sentence is mild. But isn't it ironic that had the mother sought a licensed professional baby murderer to create the same results, as far as the baby's fate is concerned; no crime would have been committed?

Strange how according to jurisprudence, ignorance of the law is no excuse, while ignorant, nay, stupid laws are not only excused but rigidly enforced as if they made even a smidgen of sense.

Life is funny, in a remorseless, tragic and asinine way.
11 posted on 12/02/2005 11:18:05 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: jbeachgrl5
In recent years, Jackson compiled a list of assault and other criminal convictions, and in 2004 pleaded guilty to a list of charges in three assault cases involving a police officer and three other people. Fay was not among the victims in any of those cases. Jackson pleaded guilty to charges of resisting an order to stop, first-degree terroristic threatening, first-degree assault on a law enforcement officer, two counts of second-degree assault and one count of third-degree assault. He was sentenced to five years' probation and a year in jail, but was later released. In May he was charged in a new second-degree assault case involving another man.

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Hawaii needs a Three Strikes law like California. May his fellow inmates treat him as he deserves, and may he depart this world sooner rather than later.

13 posted on 12/02/2005 12:11:49 PM PST by doug from upland (The troops will come home when the mission is complete)
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To: untrained skeptic

no death penalty in WI


14 posted on 12/02/2005 12:57:59 PM PST by mukraker
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To: TheCrusader

Here is another great example of the down the rabbit hole insanity that abortion "law" is. A few years ago in Chicago, a married manager of a fast food resturant was charged with the murder of his girlfriend and her unborn child. It seems that he knocked her up, and she came to extort him for hush money, part of which was to go for an abortion. He killed her because he didn't want to pay the dough for it.

While the murder charges for the girlfriend are easy to understand, I was struck as to how there was almost no discussion of the fact that he got charged for achieving precisely the same objective for the child that the "mother" was seeking and that she would have been entirely free of legal consequence for by having the deed performed by a medical hitman.

Aside from the grave moral implications, abortion law is also the greatest insult to logic and linear reasoning that was ever perpetrated by man or Supreme court justice!!!


15 posted on 12/02/2005 5:36:15 PM PST by DMZFrank
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"Aside from the grave moral implications, abortion law is also the greatest insult to logic and linear reasoning that was ever perpetrated by man or Supreme court justice!!!"

It's pure evil.

16 posted on 12/04/2005 5:05:07 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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