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Live Thread - Anybody Watching W's Speech On Immigration - Only on Fox (Vanity)
Fox News Channel | 11/28/05 | Self

Posted on 11/28/2005 1:55:47 PM PST by TCats

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To: Shermy; gubamyster; Spiff; Czar; planekT
First he has to lay out the bait, before he makes the switch.

He can't propose his guest worker amnesty deal, until after some pseudo tough talk, meant only to gull the duller sheeple.

But note well: despite all the policy decisions he mentions today (which can be canceled or scaled back at any time in the future) there is one thing he will NOT do: actually build a modern multiple fence system.


41 posted on 11/28/2005 2:06:03 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: BlueStateDepression

Hog Slaughter plant near here is FULL of illegals (With Documents) doing jobs that the plant coulsdn't find Americans willing to do at 12.50-$15 bucks an hour+ bene's...

That's a good living wage in that area, and will buy a decent house.

Until we get our kids to come to grips with the fact that not every job provides 25 paid days off, and a company Lexus, we will CONTINUE to have this problem....


42 posted on 11/28/2005 2:06:17 PM PST by tcrlaf
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To: TCats

Listening via Internet Stream from KFYI.com via Sean Hannity program.

I hear lots of promises, but little meat. One promise is dubious. He promises a "guest worker" program that brings the illegals out of the shadows and "rejects amnesty." Yeah, right...

He promised to "harden" the border, but so far (the speech is time delayed via Hannity) he's not said how he's going to "harden" anything. He talks about changing policies and laws and launching new programs, but I don't hear anything YET about "hardening" anything.


43 posted on 11/28/2005 2:06:24 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: TCats

President Bush waves as he gets off Marine One on Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 in Waco, Texas. Bush has ended his Thanksgiving vacation and is traveling to Tucson, Ariz., for a speech on border security and immigration reform. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)


U.S. President George W. Bush walks past helicopter to deliver a speech on border security and immigration reform at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson, Arizona November 28, 2005. REUTERS/Jim Young


44 posted on 11/28/2005 2:06:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: rhc2000

I support Bush..always have....just think he is doing this for the wrong reasons...but as usual, I'll do my best to suuport him the best I can....


45 posted on 11/28/2005 2:06:48 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: LK44-40

Bush's immigration policies are far better though than Bill Clinton's were.


46 posted on 11/28/2005 2:07:17 PM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: Nan48
I'm still waiting to hear an apology for calling the Minutemen vigilantes.

I'm not holding my breath for the President to apologize to me and my fellow Minuteman Project volunteers.

47 posted on 11/28/2005 2:07:43 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: malia
President Bush just said - to take jobs our people will not do ----- do those that won't work still take and be eligible for welfare?

Thanks. I'm so sick and tired of that lie I could barf.

48 posted on 11/28/2005 2:07:54 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: aft_lizard

I"m always happy....generally.....lol.....can't we give criticism when warrented?....we are tough enough for that are we not?


49 posted on 11/28/2005 2:08:09 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Well to be fair, President Bush did just say he would not sign a bill that support amnesty for illegal immigrants.

"I'll just call the new amnesty a 'guest worker program.'

My peons are so stupid, they'll believe anything."


51 posted on 11/28/2005 2:08:26 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Shermy
Yep. That's the gimmick to keep lower and middle class wages depressed while seemingly seeming to do something.

It sure is keeping salaries lower, how much are you willing to pay for a Big Mac. How much for a night's stay in Motel 6? How much for clean restrooms? That's the point. It'll all cost more, which doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. It will also take time to raise all those salaries for our children (who presumabely want these jobs) without throwing all these businesses into the red.

52 posted on 11/28/2005 2:08:31 PM PST by rhombus
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To: rhombus

What? Hillary's on?


53 posted on 11/28/2005 2:09:01 PM PST by saveliberty (Conservativism - the commitment to live within your own means and to take care of yourself & family)
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To: MNlurker

Unbelieveable. The only network.


54 posted on 11/28/2005 2:09:04 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: TCats

Too Little, Too Late..


55 posted on 11/28/2005 2:09:21 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Spiff
I hear lots of promises, but little meat.

I didn't even hear promises from the President....

56 posted on 11/28/2005 2:09:22 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Americanwolf

There is nothing the President can say or do that will win approval from the Tancredo clan. Just watch


57 posted on 11/28/2005 2:09:24 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: Lakeshark
"You probably don't know many young adults, or employers......."

You are talking about spoiled college kids and country club republicans.

We scuzzy, filthy middle-class losers are eagerly willing to work those jobs.

58 posted on 11/28/2005 2:09:32 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: TCats

Great speech! That is the Bush I love!!!


59 posted on 11/28/2005 2:09:37 PM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: NorCalRepub; All

Why not run for office?


60 posted on 11/28/2005 2:09:37 PM PST by roses of sharon
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