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UN investigator says torture widespread in China, but praises Beijing
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 11/21/05 | AFP - Beijing

Posted on 11/21/2005 8:36:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge

BEIJING (AFP) - The UN's chief torture investigator has praised China's leaders for acknowledging the widespread abuse of prisoners in the nation's jails, as he begins a historic 12-day fact-finding mission.

Manfred Novak, the UN Human Rights Commission's special rapporteur on torture, said Beijing had offered him freer access to detainees than the United States was prepared to give him on a recently scrapped trip to Guantanamo Bay.

"There is a growing awareness that torture is quite widely practised in the common criminal proceedings (in China) by the police and that something needs to be done," Nowak said in an interview with the BBC aired on Tuesday.

"I see my visit also as part of this growing awareness."

Nowak arrived in Beijing Monday for an unprecedented trip after receiving government assurances it would cooperate with him and allow him unannounced visits to prisons and private talks with prisoners.

"I'm very grateful to the Chinese government that they did invite me and also that they accepted my terms of reference," he said on the BBC.

"I see this as an opening up of governmental policy in relation to UN special procedures and I had very good first meetings (on Monday) with the officials from the ministry of foreign affairs and justice."

However Nowak did not try to gloss over the widespread human rights abuses in China's jails.

"China is a huge country and it has of course a long tradition of torture and ill treatment and you can't change that from one day to the other, so it is a policy of taking small steps," Nowak said.

"People have been sentenced to death and afterwards it turned out that the 'victims' actually were alive, so it was clear that the only reason why they have been sentenced to death and executed was that their confession had been extracted by torture."

Aside from prisons in Beijing, Nowak will visit the Tibetan capital of Lhasa, before going onto Urumqi and Yining in the Uighur Muslim-populated Xinjiang region.

Police in both regions have engaged in long-standing crackdowns on separatism, and human rights groups regularly report widespread abuse of detainees there.

The visit by Nowak, who is the first special rapporteur on torture to visit China, comes after years of negotiations between the UN and China on allowing unfettered access to prisons, private talks with detainees and no retaliation on prisoners.

In the early 1990s, a UN special rapporteur on arbitrary detention visited prisons in Tibet. But prisoners were punished for what they told the investigator, rights group say.

"They were given longer sentences and some were even beaten," Nicholas Becquelin, Hong Kong director for Human Rights in China, told AFP.

"The UN does not want to see this happen again, so that is why it has taken so long to get this visit again."

Nowak said that the terms of reference for his visit to China were better than what the United States had offered on a proposed visit to Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, where prisoners from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are being held.

"It was made clear by the Pentagon that they would not be willing to accept my terms of reference, so there was no other option than to finally cancel the mission," Nowak said.

Nowak last week cancelled his scheduled December 6 visit to Guantanamo Bay after failing to win assurances from the United States that he would be able to meet detainees privately.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beijing; china; humanrights; investigator; praises; torture; unhrc; unitednations; widespread

1 posted on 11/21/2005 8:36:43 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

A prison open day in Nanjing. The UN's chief torture investigator has praised China's leaders for acknowledging the widespread abuse of prisoners in the nation's jails, as he begins a historic 12-day fact-finding mission(AFP/File)


2 posted on 11/21/2005 8:37:25 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't see any panties on their heads...

Rookies...

3 posted on 11/21/2005 8:41:51 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess the UN isn't interested in the Chinese practice of executing prisoners in order to harvest their organs.


4 posted on 11/21/2005 8:48:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NormsRevenge
The UN's chief torture investigator has praised China's leaders for acknowledging the widespread abuse of prisoners in the nation's jails, as he begins a historic 12-day fact-finding mission.

China abuses prisoners, gets praised. US goes out of its way to treat prisoners well and gets lambasted for a few isloated incidents of prison abuse. Orwell wouldn't be proud, but he wouldn't be surprised either.
5 posted on 11/21/2005 9:00:20 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: Cicero

Not to mention their forced abortions and one-child policy. I guess it's not a "woman's choice" after all.


6 posted on 11/21/2005 9:09:57 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: NormsRevenge

Why do we give the UN money?

Red6


7 posted on 11/21/2005 9:11:33 PM PST by Red6
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To: NormsRevenge

Of course China's jails are bad. If jail was good everybody would want to go to jail.

Torture is not good. But after hearing what some people in the U.S. are calling torture, perhaps that needs to be defined.

I think only harsh conditions in China jail would be called torture by U.S. jail standards. Actually, taking away coffee and televisions for U.S. prisoners I hear some people in the U.S. are calling torture.

One thing for sure, China is safe to walk at night in most cities so if you do not break the law then you do not need to worry so much.

China needs something closer to what Singapore has. English rule of law but strong sentencing. The U.S. could sure use more difficult jails. Don't you think?


8 posted on 11/21/2005 9:26:29 PM PST by BJungNan
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